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     FKK Guide Silver Contributor Username: Fkk Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2003 Rating: |
Planet Happy Garden Butzenstrasse 41 47918 Tönisvorst-Oedt Tel 02152 519103 Hours Monday - Saturday 11am - 1am Sunday 3pm - 1am Cost Entry 50€ Sessions 25€ Sex (bj with condom) 30 min 50€ Sex (bj without condom)30 min 75€ Sex (bj without condom)60 min Extras Solarium, Sauna, Buffet Web Site More Maps  Neon Sign  Room  Terrace  The rear Bar once a pool  Entry Lobby with Statue of Marylin  Heavy Security Exterior  The Garden  The main bar  Directions Take the A44 Krefeld - Monchengladbach, exit 23 (Munchheide), after leaving the autobahn turn left and drive straight on for about 10 km. When there's a sign with the direction "Oedt" to the left, take this turn. Drive straight on at the next bigger junction until just before the second junction (end of this road), there's the entrance to Happy Garden. | ||
| Euro New Contributor Username: Euro Post Number: 100 Registered: 11-2003 Rating: N/A |
Lodging Hotel Haus Sittard Rheinstrasse 6 41749 Viersen - Süchteln Tel 02162 6077 Fax 02162 77442 26 Beds 10 Single Rooms 8 Double Rooms Single Rooom with Breakfast 38€ Without Breakfast 35€ Bowling, Parking area Höhen Hotel Gehring Hindenburgstrasse 67 41749 Viersen - Süchteln Tel 02162 7277 Tel 02162 7278 Fax 02162 80359 25 Beds 6 Single Rooms 9 Double Rooms Single Room with Bath 90€ Double Room with Bath 140€ Parking Area and Garage Hotel Restaurant Haus Berger Lobbericher Strasse 20 41749 Viersen - Süchteln Tel 02162 6127 Fax 02162 979994 14 Beds 1 Single Room 30€ 6 Double Rooms 55€ Rooms include bath Parking area and Garage Hotel Gartz Tönisvorster Straße 35 41747 Viersen - Süchteln Tel 02162 6067 Haus Vorst Kuhstraße 4 41918 Tönisvorst Tel 02156 7047 Hotel Haffmans Markt 12-14 47929 Grefrath Tel 02158 91660 Grefrather Hof Akzent Hotel Am Eisstadion 47929 Grefrath Tel 02158 4070 Hotel Schumeckers Hohe Straße 36a 47929 Grefrath Tel 02158 3888 ETAP Krefeld Hansastrasse 30 47799 KREFELD Tel 02151 6289620 ETAP Willich Jakob-Kaiser Strasse 5 Gewerbegebiet Muenchheide II 47877 WILLICH Tel 02154 429465 Etap Hotel Rates One Person 36€ Two Persons 42€ Hotels listed are 10Km or closer to PHG | ||
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Girls at PHG usually ask that the negoiations take place in the room. This may be a rule so the club can listen in. This is standard in many of the Nevada brothels so you had to use hand signals or pen and paper to make a deal. Please note Happy Garden is open on Sundays at 3pm. If you like Happy Garden you may prefer Wildenrath's Parksauna which is owned by the same people. They do have a slightly different way of doing business. 70dm entry, you pay the girl 150dm before your session. All girls are usually naked as opposed to Happy Garden. You also can expect some couch action prior to the room visit. | ||
| FoolManChu Rating: N/A |
I made two visit to my favorite club in Germany Planet Happy Garden this week. I visited this place almost 10 time in the past 5 year. It was very quiet when I visit Sunday night as was apparent by the lack of car in the parking lot. Due to my popularity I only pay 100 dm entry rather then the usual 120dm other customer pay. About 15 girl and 10 customer were present, from my impression of the quality I suspect that most of the men could find a girl that was suitable. Since my standard are higher then most I personally feel that the average girl is less attractive then they once were a year ago. Being the typical Asian I selected an amazon type Russian gal named "Badinka", (Why are all Russian girl named Badinka?) She was the typical blonde, tall, slim, doll faced Russian you find at most club. She was instantly attracted to me as our eyes locked on one anothers and oh my her smile. When she smile I instantly knew this was a good sign. In the room she perform the best oral stimulation I have ever had compounded by generous Gal Friend Sex. She is now my girl friend and If I decide to return to Germany she is on my list to do again. I return on Monday and things were a bit strange now. This was not the first time I had visit on Monday and in past it was expected to be slow but not this time. Again there was only one car in the parking lot which almost made me not even enter the club. Now there were only 8 girl visable and a very few customer is it possible they were not yet fully operational for business? As usual my luck was excellente with the girl as I locked on to my first girl "Babuska" from Bulgaria (Why are all the Bulgarian girls named Babuska?) I won't share what happen in the room but I will say it was just average. By chance on this slow day I ran into another one of my favorite "Olgato" from Poland. She under 30 and as stated by your Polish expert here on the board Polish girl make the best sex worker and are high on my "to do" list. The sex we had was again Gal Friend Sex, I soon had her screaming in pleasure as I used my dinky on her so she cum real fast. I can attest to this as her pussy was oh so sensitive and her response may be too authentic. This may also be due to I being a regular and having had many sessions with her and repeat session usually make for better service. I highly doubt it was the extra 500dm I tip her the last time I visit or can this be what the German Mann call customer service? So I apply this method to "Badinka" {a repeat} who would be my number 3 screw of the day. This time I had better time but I do not care to share details as I don't want the girls talking about me. My limited view is that less man care to share the details on the web but being the experienced sex traveler I am I feel like sharing with the board today. You may enjoy... | ||
| Anon Rating: N/A |
I think guys need to keep in mind that you can't judge a place by one report, one visit or even one session with a girl. I've been to Happy Garden over a dozen times in a period of a few years. I've visited and and left without doing one girl bu then I've also visited and done 4 women. You can't beat the price 50dm with condom oral and sex pr 100dm for non-codom oral and sex. The women will most likely try and convince you do go the non-condom oral route. It's kinda hard to refuse when your in her mouth and she asks you to select the 50dm or 100dm price. I suggest people be more open as this hobby is based on humans who can have a bad day just as well as a great day. Just selecting a girl on looks often leads to a bad experience if the chemistry between you does not work. It's true that Happy Garden is not what one would say an actual "FKK" club but then neither is Park Sauna or Dolce Vita. Some places the women are totally nude while others they wear lingerie or bathing suits. We need to bare in mind that we are also getting sex for $70-$100 which is cheap by US standards. I suggest unless you hear lots of guys posting that a place is bad that you judge it for yourself. Personally I've heard more good things about Planet Happy Garden then bad. Can you really judge a place by one girl and the fact that someone may have visited during a peak period? Truth is if there are lots of guys then the club can't be that bad. I suppose if the club was empty and you had 20 women that were never busy that would mean that the club was good? Let's face it the fact that you have lots of men means a place just may be good. When I hear several opposing views about a club it's just one more reason to visit and find out for myself. | ||
| Woody3130309 Rating: N/A |
I have visited Planet Happy Garden (PHG) twice in the past year. While I agree totally that it does not compare to Parksauna and St. Augustine or Bernd's in "genuine" FKK quality sex, it is an amazing way to spend a full Saturday or Sunday evening. The fact that they serve real beer, with the combination of lunch and dinner buffets AND 50DM parties if you choose oral with, it is an amazing value and amazing time. I have had nothing but great experiences here and have sampled some spectacular babes, even if public sex is taboo and there is no couch action. It IS true that my best FKK experiences have been at St. A/Bernd's and the variety cannot be beat at Atlantis, but I do enjoy shift change at PHG. The introduction of 15-20 new spectacular babes along about 5pm is very intriguing. I look forward to re-creating my past experiences and finding some new diamonds in the rough. All input is appreciated and will be reciprocated with full travel reports. | ||
| Al Bundy Contributor Username: albundy Post Number: 41 Registered: 7-2001 Rating: N/A |
Check my past posts for details on the food/German behavior at this club. It is something I have not found anywhere else. The only time it works OK is when the cook stands there and serves the food himself, thus limiting portion size and somewhat assuring everybody might get something. However the club does not seam to really care that some customers might end up quite hungry by the end of the evening. But then as you say, we are not really here for the food. The good news is that if you are looking for some special girl, she will likely surface just before feeding time, and perhaps you can catch her then. It has been my experience over the last year or more of going to this club that there is always a good selection of about 20+ girls. It is hard to get an accurate count, as a good number will be in a room for 1 or 2 hours. Unless you know most of them from memory, you can't really count. Also, this club seems to attract or specialize in a large number of Polish and Russian girls. There is always a good group of each. Other Eastern types as well, and some German and Oriental lately, but for some reason this seams to be a club with about 75% from these two areas. The service is always good, the prices (obviously) can't be beat. And if you are willing to spend more than the basic 25E for 1/2 hour with, you are very popular. For an hour without, you are promoted to King status! As for days of the week, this is also pretty consistent as for count. Perhaps the weekends (especially Sunday) might be a little lighter, but it has not been a problem. Some of the girls do not work the weekend, but then others just work then. The only thing I have seen is for the girls that work the week, and then take the weekend off (Saturday and Sunday), they can be pretty tired by Friday night. ALso the club is especially jammed Fridays, so lately I have tried to avoid that evening. I was actually a bit surprised when I arrived on Thursday afternoon at about 3 PM, and found the parking lot jammed! Guess Germans don't have a pattern to their activities. Anytime must work for them. One of these days I am going over there at about 11:00 AM and see what's up! The pool at Happy Garden has been closed and turned into more bar space. It was not really open 2 weks ago, but is almost ready. (Same kind of stunt they did at Babylon a year or so ago.) Personally, I liked the pool better, but the bar does get very crowded. As for pricing, it is 50DM per 30 minutes. If you want it without condom, it is a 1-time 50DM extra, so 1 hour without costs 150DM. Yes it does get very crowded on Saturdays. Actually I will likely be part of the crowd this Saturday, as there is a group of us heading up there. Food has always been around on the weekend, but you had better be there when it comes out as it only lasts about 20-30 minutes. I was here Thursday night, and it is still great. Lots of new talent since I was here 6 weeks ago, but a number of the origianls as well. Jill is always here and very friendly. Had a nice session with Sandara who has now gotten small implants. Looks and feels great. Gives a nice service too. Many new other girls, some of them unbelievably beautiful, which seems to be the norm here. With a high percentage of the girls from Poland and eastern Europe, this meets my needs very well for looks. Service for me has always been good. Also had a nice session with an older Tai girl (Pia). Lots of fun, very GFE, I even surprised her (and me a little as well) by getting her off twice (once oral, once normal) before she decided she better finish me. If you are up in this part of Germany, this club is always interesting. Also, as per my past posts, the German customers are animals when the food comes out. It was all gone in less than 20 minutes! I was not standing in line, so came up empty. This is the only real negative about this place. Yes, this is one of the most difficult places to find, and re-find. For me I think it is because most of the roads in the area are set up in a ring fashion around Kempen. My mind is more used to thinking in a more othogonal manner, so this causes confusion. I have now been there enough I know a couple of ways to get there (from the A45 and A61), so it's not so bad. Best idea is to stay in the area over the weekend, and just drive around for a few hours to get the lay of the land. One other useful technique for finding places initially is to drive to a nearby town, and then hire a cab to FOLLOW there. They get paid either way and I am told don't mind a bit, and if you are like me you will probably never learn the way if you just ride there. I need to drive it for myself to get it to stick. | ||
| SP Gold Contributor Username: sp Post Number: 330 Registered: 1-1997 Rating: N/A |
Regulars or locals are what keep these places in business. Many of them know the management well and likewise get better treatment. It's impossible to just act like one, aside from taking charge to get in line for food the women know who is who. PHG is the sister club to Parksauna where this is also common. It's all very common business practice, who do you stand behind? A guy who comes in a couple times or guys who come in ALL the time? It's also common that when most of the regulars arrive they have priority over the women that know them. Some guys see the same girl the same time each week, thus your 50-100 Euros means nothing when some of these guys take the same girl for several hours for 200-300 Euros every week. I don't care how special you think you are, wait till a regular comes between you and your selection, you'll lose every time. I suggest you mind your manners and be polite as you may get the boot and ruin it for all non-regulars. Please remember these are PRIVATE clubs not PUBLIC places and they don't have to let you in. This is just my humble oppinion from visiting PHG. | ||
| Pervus the pervert New Contributor Username: pervus Post Number: 3 Registered: 3-2002 Rating: N/A |
Let this lurker and ocasional poster add his two cents to this discussion about PHG. Yes the locals and regulars get,and should be given more attention then us occasional visitors. I have only been to that club a couple of times. But, I have found that a little humble agression will work almost every time. When the food comes out, I act like the locals. I am not shy about getting right in there in the front of line. And, I take what I want. You know, when in Rome do as the Romans do. Also, I use a bit of peaceful aggresiveness where the girls are concerned too. When I'm looking for a particular girl, I sit in the rear area of the club, near the door to the backyard area. It seems that usually every girl passes there sooner or later. When the lady I want goes by, I go after her before she gets back out to the bar area. If she refuses me, then I simply move on to plan B...a different girl. I don't take rejection well. I have been able to get most of the women I lusted after in this way. Try it. | ||
| Al Bundy (Ab) New Contributor Username: Ab Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2003 Rating: N/A |
On this trip I did 2 back-to-back days here. This is a useful technique, as it usually makes it possible to catch some of the better girls that might be very busy. I came with 3 friends, so there was a nice group of us on Saturday night, and Sunday with 1 friend. I must say, Saturday night was the best visit I have ever had here, especially with regards to the girls and customers. Saturday was busy, but not a mob scene (usually it is a mob scene!). There were a large number of girls, and overall quality was very high. For some reason, all the girls and all the customers were very friendly. All 3 of my friends speak no German, and they even had a great time talking to the girls and guests. We were there from 16:00 til close, and never had a bad moment. All of us had great sessions. As for me, I made a repeat visit with a Brazillian girl who has been here for over 1 year(used to be at Meindorf). As I know she can be extremely hot and wild, I went straight to her. We proceeded to thrash around and completely dishevel the room. Best session I have had in a while. Sunday night was also fun, but much fewer guests and girls. This is normal at this club, so I was not surprised. Still, there were a good number of quality girls, and no problems again. This club is still very high on my list. Even if it was not so inexpensive, the constant high level of girls would still make it a must see. If you have not been here, do so. One word of information (warning) - the pricing here for some reason is confusing, even though it should not be. We did hear one girl (another Brazillian or South America type) telling guests that it was 100 for 1 hour no matter what she did. I asked the management for the "official" rates, and it was confirmed that basic service is 25 for each 1/2 hour, with a ONE TIME charge of +25 if you want BBBJ (without condom). FT or anal is negotiated seperately with the girl. (Friends have told me FT is either free, or +25, depending on the girl and how long you spend in the room. YMMV!) This means 1 hour with is 50, without is 75, etc. In addition to the information in the public section, I will add that the second girl informed me they were not allowed to charge for "extras". I did not think to have her go over all the rules of charging with me, but I sure will the next time. Hopefully she is there when I return in 2 weeks. Both of these girls did not charge anything extra, and did outstanding service with FT at the end. I did not even ask for it, and in fact let them know (for sure!) that I was over the edge and they could stop easily if they had wanted to. The custom is pretty consistent accross all clubs, especially here, and it is this - time is running until you pop. Shortly after that you will be asked if you want to leave the room, and you will be charged an appropriate amount (the usual is 50 Euro if no extras were involved). If you elect to stay, the clock continues running, but it is assumed and expected you will be there longer than the 1/2 hour minimum. I suppose some of you young dudes can manage 2 pops in a 30-minute period, but I sure can't! I am not aware of anyplace that will allow 2 shots in a 30 minute session, so don't expect this. At Happy Garden it is especially common for a guest to stay in the room with the girl for a longer period. My average time is around 90 minutes, and that is normally only 1 shot for me, but hopefully you can do better. I just enjoy spending time with these girls, many of whom I know reasonably well, or want to get to know. Also, they will all be pretty good about telling you when the 30 minutes is up, so you won't go over without realizing it (some other clubs but not all do this). I have gotten in the habit only at Happy Garden of telling the girl up front I don't really care about the time (and hence money), so this often leads to a better session. Just be prepared to spend at least 1 hour if you do this. Sometimes I will say "No problem up to 2 hours" and this then puts some kind of boundary on it. The girls are always happy with this, then they don't really have to worry either. As for FT, is stands for Französich Total, or Freench Total, and is the term used to indicate when you cum in her mouth. In my recent experiences this is getting more popular, and more girls are doing it. But BE SURE to either ask the girl before you start (to be certain she does it, and what the extra costs to you might be), or if you get carried away at the moment, make clear verbal ("OK, OK!) AND physical indications (tap firmly on her body somewhere at the same time you are verbalizing) that you are at the end of your rope. This gives her the option of pulling off at the last second, and does not really kill the finish for you. The best approach is to set everything up in advance, then there is no worry. Some of my best FT's have happened when I was not really expecting or planning them, the girls just kept going. This has been the case here more than other places. For me it is not a problem, as I am familiar with the prices, girls, and clubs, and they mostly know me as a regular guest. For new guests, this could lead to confusion about the money ("You didn't tell me it cost extra!", stuff like that). Back here again on Saturday afternoon and evening, and again terrific service. Club was jumping. I did some confirmation with a girl I now know well, and she speaks excellent English to avoid any possible confusion. The "official" club policy is 25 E for every half hour, with 1-time extra charges for BBBJ, FT. We did not discuss cum-on-body, but it should be no more than FT, and might not be anything extra. Anal was also not explicitly discussed (I did not really think to ask about it), but we were mostly discussing "all extras" being 25 extra. So, for those of you that like FT, a 1-hour session (if you can last that long! ) would be 50+25+25 = 100 Euro. Or for guys like me that like to relax and talk, etc. my 2-hour sessions are 150. Just about half what it costs in Frankfurt. In my experience, the level of service here is tops. Like any club, you can sometimes have a bad experience, and if it is really bad, you should say something to the management. They really do care here, and will try to correct the problem. Best if you do it right away, and not wait until you leave, as you will then remeber the girls name, could point her out, etc. Daniella was away on holiday. Both of these girls were new to me, and somewhat new to the club. BTW, I have often stated the financial advantages of this club (in addition to the great girls). 1st trip to the room was 1 hour, FT finsh, 75 Euro. 2nd girl, 2 hours, FT finish 125! Compare this to the 250 at Atlantis or Oase or ?? and it looks even better here. | ||
| Bob (Bob) New Contributor Username: Bob Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2003 Rating: N/A |
Interesting how things can change. I've had some good times and bad at this club but im not really sure what it was that changed things? Besides Daniella (by the way did you sample or see her this trip?)are all these women you mention NEW women or ones you know? | ||
| Al Bundy (Ab) New Contributor Username: Ab Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2003 Rating: N/A |
I was just here on Saturday April 19, and for me it was as always - great! I have heard a few reports like FKK has reported, but none recently. I do often visit with Daniella, but she was off on holiday this time. This gave me the opportunity to check out some of the other girls, and I was very pleasantly surprised. First was a Russian - Aleena. Limited English German and Russian just fine. Sevice was terrific, with a killer body to go with it. Only 2 small problems - she tends to cover too much of it up so you don't know how great it is until you get to the room, and for me she must have decided she wanted to do FT no matter what once I expressed my total satisfaction with her technique! I tried to get her off (not too hard mind you), but she went right back to it, so I let her finish up. No extra charges, just complete satisfaction. Next was the great body from Hungary, who now lives in Holland - Daniell. (Not to be confused with Daniella from Brazil, although they are friends as well). Not the prettiest face in the world, but a really great body, excellent English, and service to die for. No problems except my lack of energy at this point. She took care of that also. After BBBJ and multiple positions, I was too tired to pop. So we just talked for a while to rest up, then she informed me she had no intention of quitting on me (after being sure I knew what the time was so as not to spend a lot of time without my OK), and them proceeded to perform the second FT of the day! I guess I must have had some invisible sign on my head that said "Blow me!" as both of these actions came without asking or extra money. Be warned - YMMV, but this is what happened to me. And neither girl was really aware that I am somewhat of a regular, as both were new to the club. As you may surmise, I am a real fan of this club. But I do understand it is a bit different, and there can be problems in any club. Actually, I was a great fan of Atlantis, and have not had much success there of late. This also will change. Al | ||
| FKK Guide (Fkk) New Contributor Username: Fkk Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2003 Rating: N/A |
My last visit here was a bit disappointing, they've improved the facility with removing the pool and adding a lower level bar. However the women seem to have gone downhill. Not in the looks department but the attitude. Some would not do basics like kiss. Others where down right rude once you got to the room. Several of the guys I was with walked on the girls (without paying) even after geting into the room. I suggest you NOT be afraid to speak up to the bar maid (woman who took your 50 Euro at the door) and tell her of any problems you might have experienced. Management has made it clear to me that they are in fact interested in hearing your problems. There are a few gems worth trying like the legendary "Jill" the blond, great body, the sun has appeared to have taken it's toll on her. She does do some great oral and likes "ANAL" for you butt men out there. She's also very sweet and popular. The two Brazilian women are also not bad, with Danielle being our first choice. She used to work at Babylon and then the old Meindof FKK near Saint Augustine. Most of the other attractions are from eastern block countries. Sure they smile and act sweet but wait till you get to the room. If this happens to you just leave the room and say "forgetaboutit". Part of it is showing WHO is the boss and you as the customer are the BOSS. Don't for get that. | ||
| SP Gold Contributor Username: sp Post Number: 331 Registered: 1-1997 Rating: |
The best place to sit that I have found is to the far right of the bar (when facing the bar). There's a smaller area with a door to the main office. The women must check in and check out via the office and this door. So if you sit anywhere where you can view access to this door you'll most likely see all the women. Should I be rejected I most likely will not ask a girl again, however I know a few girls well at PHG and from conversations I understand why they may refuse. For example I asked a girl to go to the room when she was just sitting in the lounge or bar area. She told me that she could not go as she had an appointment with a regular who would be arriving in a few minutes. Her refusal had nothing to do with me but rather that this is how many of the girls do business. She had no problem providing me service when she actually was free. Most non-German speaking guys (whom I bring with me) get the impression that they're being rejected when in fact they may be refused due to a regular. OK, if they continue to sit there for hours on end this is not the case. Language barriers, not often but sometimes at PHG I've seen women refuse men who don't speak their language. This can also happen at other clubs and I've seen it happen. SO it can help to have someone present that speaks German well enough to get past this. Food, I don't think the buffet has anything to do with who is who. At Parksauna the food seems to last longer as they usually have less customers. At PHG guys seem to wait for the food to be served as soon as the tell tail signs appear. The table is set, plates and things are put out etc. Then the actual food arrives, usually a meat dish, noodles, rice and salad plus bread. Guys don't waste time and line up to load their plates and pretty soon its all gone. If there were enough for everyone I don't think we would be having this conversation however there never appears to be enough. So it may just be guys are aggressive as they need to be to get any food period. Every time I've visited PHG the food goes fast but then again im not there to eat. By the way sometimes they have sandwiches in the cooler that has the bottled beer. Look for them as they don't last either. I've noticed that Europeans (Im one but I live in the US) tend to be more aggressive as far as things like food and buffets go. Growing up in the US I noticed that Americans take food for granted as it is just cheaper and more plentiful. You won't find many buffets like the ones in the US. Hell you even pay for the Catsup packs at Mc Donald's in Germany. You won't find many FREE refill drinks or self serve softdrinks places in Germany either. Ever notice the "fill to this line" on most cups and glasses? Well people demand their exact cut or share. OK now maybe it makes more sense why the Germans pay $50 for a good piece of ass and non-Germans are paying triple. This still does not explain why they pay more for German cars then we do? Yes I know about the higher taxes but it's all kinda strange how it works. | ||
| SP Gold Contributor Username: sp Post Number: 332 Registered: 1-1997 Rating: N/A |
As far as being legal, yes and no, in reality they have found some ways to work around prostitution. If you notice you pay the women directly at many clubs and not to the club. Yes you pay an entrance fee. In fact at some clubs it's well known that what you do behind closed doors is your business but they don't want "women" and the club providing them known. Forgive me if this sounds a bit confusing but it has to do with licenses and taxes from what I've been told. Did you ever notice the name at the now closed Meindorf club "Private Party Treff". It does not say Meindorf Brothel or Meindorf Whorehouse. Compare this to the "Chicken Ranch" in Nevada where the house actually takes half of what the girls make. It's a meeting point (like the name states) rather then a brothel but from our point of view we see it as a brothel. Perhaps it's more the way Germany views rights and what people do behind closed doors. If you think about it that is what fucks up sex in the US. So legally NO you can't set up a whorehouse in many places but you can work around that and have a paid party house where they provide lockers, sauna, pool etc. (They don't provide sex). Remember the women pay to enter also and you just happen to be there.If you happen to meet a woman and use a room and then tip her, well you both leave happy. Ever wonder why they have sauna's, think about it a whorehouse only needs a bed and a room to function but for show it looks better to have all that non-sexual reasons to go there. Something to ponder.... I found this out when I did a inside photo and video shoot a few months ago at Atlantis and Sainkt Augustine. Yes I got permission and the video should be out in a few weeks. Let me say that every club is a bit different as is the region its located in. Legal.. well that really depends how we look at it. It's only sex..... | ||
| janal New Contributor Username: janal Post Number: 5 Registered: 9-2002 Rating: N/A |
Went for the first time to PHG on a Friday. Because of obligations (work) I only arrived at around 21.00h. It is not easy to find but with some assistance from an online routeplanner (I used www.maporama.com), or a good lokal map you should find it. It is situated near Oedt and Tönisvorst and when you reach it in the dark you’ll notice it by it lights ( the name isn’t very visible from the main road). When I arrived the parking was full and I had to park my car at the end of the street. There is enough parking space. When you reach the door there is a doorbell that you have to push so they can let you in. Once inside they ask if it is your first time and if so they explain the prices and tell you where you can change and shower. After I got my bathrobe, towel and locker key I headed to the changing room to get undressed. This is a room between the main bar (where most of the people are) and the so called ‘nightbar’ (which was a former swimmingpool), showers and the sauna’s. So everybody passes this area to go from the bar to the other areas. After the shower I started to walk around and talk a look at the different facilities. The bar in the back was pretty empty so I headed for the main bar. 90% of the girls is here. They sit at the bar, against the wall, or play on the videogame in the back where there are also some couches. Completely in the back of this bar is a little room with some more couches and a door to the terrasse. Because it was Friday and I supposed that it would be the busiest day of the week I decided to look around for a while. Despite the amount of clients there where always about 15 to 20 girls waiting in the bar. At first it might be a good idea to wait for about 30 minutes before going for it because there are constantly coming and going girls in and out this room. Most of the girls try to get your attention by looking at you or walking in front of you deliberatly. In my case one girl came to me (I was sitting for only 5 minutes at the bar !) and started talking to me. She asked if I wanted some company or wanted to wait a bit. After I explained that I just arrived and wanted to look around first she left, but said that I could always come back to her. She was always friendly and even at the end of the evening she still smiled to me. After some looking around I found it time to get some action. There where three girls standing at a table against the wall. So I looked at one of them and almost instantly she looked back. Without saying a word she knew I wanted her and she went to the back to get a roomkey. She was from Tunesia and her name was Sheila. She has darkbrown hair and is about 1.70 m tall. She is not extremely slim but I would say rather normal build with a pretty big pair of knockers (I guess D-cup). She likes to talk (german) and is very friendly. She undressed herself while sitting on the bed and talking to me. After that she French kissed me and pressed her lovely upper curves against my face. Unfortunaltely I was so excited (I guess from her appearance and from the general atmosphere in the house) that I came way to soon while we were in the 69 position. I can’t blame Sheile for it because she was very gentile and she didn’t rush it with the intention to get out of that room as quickly as possible. It was completely my own fault. After this experience I decided to return to the bar and drink a beer. After a while Sheila entered the room again (after she showered). This experience is, for me, a bit new because I am not used to it that the girl that you have been with sits again in the same room as you. When you go to a private house or so you mostly leave after your ‘date’. But here you meet each other again constantly and they see and know which girl(s) you pick. After I finished my beer I decided to go and have a shower since I still didn’t shower after my experience with Sheila. So I headed to the shower and funny about this is that some girls shower at the same place as the men (most of the girls don’t do that but I have seen 2 of them). After this shower I headed back again to the main bar because the other bar was still pretty empty and it would stay that way for the entire evening. Back in the bar it became pretty crowded but a lot of those german men sat at the bar drinking and talking to their friends and some of the girls. A lot of the customers come there in group. I read once on a forum that Friday evening is to be avoided since it is to crowded and you have to wait a while for an empty room or for a girl. I have never had that experience. I asked one of the girls if it was a busy evening and she replyed by saying that it was a normal evening. My second girl was Adriana. A Brazilian girl, about 1.60m tall, slim build an 24 years old. She is a very lively girl and when she noticed I was interested she jumped of her chair and came straight to me. While she went for a key I waited in the lobby for her and as she came back she passed Sheila (my first experience) and Sheila stopped Adriana and spoke to her. When she came through she asked me to take a shower first. A bit wondered I said to her that I already did and she at first didn’t believe me. So I think that Sheila told Adriana that she thought I didn’t take a shower after we met because I was back in the bar sooner than she was. (I did take a shower but only after I had a beer !). The positive side of this is that it reflects the tidyness of the PHG environment (The place it self, the showers, the rooms and the girls) So I didn’t take it personally although Sheila should have spoken with me about it first. Adriana was also a good experience, but completely different than Sheila. She kneeled besides me on the bed and while she was busy with my lower parts I could play with hers. After this she came on top of me and jumped up and down as if her live depends on it. It was a special experience but a bit to heavy fo me. So after this I decided to take a shower immediately ! My third pick was Sabrina, a blond girl from eastern Europe that is already 2 years at PHG ! She is very friendly and likes to talk and ask some questions. I would compare this experience with Adriana with one big difference. She is more relaxed and does things a bit slower and more like a girlfriend. Afterwards she didn’t rush back into her clothes to get out (as a matter of fact none did) but sat on the bed and talked some more. After this I decided to leave after a last look at the bar. So I enjoyed one last beer before leaving. It was past midnight and a lot of customers (and girls) already left. (PHG closes at 01.00h). When I left the management asked me if I liked it and as usual they are very friendly. Summary : PHG was a good experience. The girls are very nice and there is a good atmosphere. For me this is a place where I will return. The only problem that I had was the language barrier. My german is not that good to be able to talk about everything so it might be nice if some more girls could understand and/or talk english. | ||
| Al Bundy Silver Contributor Username: albundy Post Number: 57 Registered: 7-2001 Rating: N/A |
Daniella is indeed the girl I have had many great sessions with. Sometimes she is a bit tired, and so it is not world class, but mostly she is fantastic for fun, unihibited action. Best to catch her early in the week if you can. Also, she has told me she sometimes does not work the weekend. As for the other girl from Brazil, I do not know anything about her other than her incorrect ideas about pricing, and that is not even first hand. The point was not to influence anybody on their selection, just to illustrate the need to be clear about the pricing policy. I also had another good session with a blonde Polish girl - Jullietta. Also my friends went with her and had a wonderful time. She was very active and willing to please. Hope this is all OK now... Al | ||
| Al Bundy Silver Contributor Username: albundy Post Number: 67 Registered: 7-2001 Rating: N/A |
Jeez, by the look of this thread I am the only guy still going here! On the otherhand, it could be that this club has always provided many very attractive girls at a very reasonable price, so what else is new? I once again had a great Saturday evening visit, and another wild ride with Daniella. It seems when she is there, I am drawn to her immediately, and then I am often completed wiped out for anybody else. Too bad, as there are so many good choices. Guess I just need to get here more often so I can check out some of the other girls as well.... Al | ||
| Al Bundy Silver Contributor Username: albundy Post Number: 69 Registered: 7-2001 Rating: N/A |
As for how to get to HG, this is probably the most difficult question you could possibly ask. Some of the clubs can be hard to find, but HG is the most difficult I know of. This is not because it is hidden, but rather because of the strange roads in the area. All the roads around the town of Kempen are in a kind of ring. Add to this that many roads wander around alot up there, and it becomes very difficult to keep your bearings and stuff. In addition there are not many unique landmarks - many farms or intersections look very similar. As for speed traps I have never had a problem, nor can I recall seeing any radar setups in the towns. However, I am always careful to stay at 50 in any town. It is really the only safe and curteous thing to do. The autobahn - well that's another matter! So, I have 2 ways that work for me. For both of these I suggest you get a map of the area - not Autoroute, or written directions, but a real map you can look at in advance. Study the general area. You will find HG between Kempen and Oedt. There is a small road that intersects about 2/3rds of the way from Kempen to Oedt. Going in this direction, HG is on the far left corner, but once here it is obvious where it must be. Now, how to get here. (Warning - this is all from memory as my maps are always left in Germany!) Method 1 - Take A61 North to exit 5 (yes I know 6 looks more direct, but 5 is easier). Go North and turn right about 2 miles up toward Grefrath on B509. This road wannders a bit, but eventually passes on the south side of Grefrath, headed toward Kempen. Go past a few stop lights, over a river, and then be ready to turn right at the light toward Oedt. This road will lead you into the center of Oedt (very small). Turn left at a "T" in the center of town. (It's a small road and somewhat hard to see from this direction.) Go out of town to the intersection in the middle of nowhere, and HG is on the right side. The other method is to take A40 headed West. Take exit 4 and turn right towards Kempen. Watch for another right at a "T" that will also lead to Kempen. Take this road in towards Kempen. Once in city limits, you pass a gas station on the left. Take the next right at the light. There is a sign for "Krankenhaus". Follow this road around in a semi-circle and keep going past all the houses, etc. This road will eventually leave the city limits, and head towards Oedt. Again, you want the intersection in the middle of nowhere, but this time HG is on the left. If you hit Oedt, you obviously went too far, so turn around. Check this all with a real map, and it will help you a lot. Also I noticed the map on this web page is not quit correct as to the location of the club. It is almost on the corner, beside an industrial type business. Good luck. Let me know how your visit goes if you make it. Believe me, it's worth the trip. I often drive all the way from Frankfurt (3 hrs + sometimes), spend the evening and then drive back (only 2.25 hours in the middle of the night! Yes, I do book down the AutoBahn.) Al | ||
| Al Bundy Silver Contributor Username: albundy Post Number: 69 Registered: 7-2001 Rating: N/A |
Spent last Saturday night here again, and had another wild ride with Daniella. Somehow I can't seem to get past her, even though there are other outstanding girls here. In discussing this club with others, I find some don't care for it. I will have to say that I have been hot and cold on this club over time. In the end I think it is best to state that for me, this is a top club. I have 3 real constant favorites and this is in the top 2 (Relax, HG and Atlantis). I guess I should post this in the favorites thread, but for those looking into this club I will share my feelings on this club here. This club for me is a little differnet from the others. It has a very definite character of it's own, and it has taken me a while to feel confortable here. It is not a good club to visit alone. It is more like a local bar, with hot girls available if interested. It seems most of the guests like to just hang at the bar and drink beer, shoot the shit with their buddies, and occasionally go fuck a beautiful woman. This is fine, and can be fun, especially if you have a few buddies there with you. However, I have found that once comfortable here, you can indeed start conversations with the girls (or othe guests sometimes), and they are quite friendly. I have recently had talks with a few, and no further action is expected. Sure, they will ask if you would like to go to a room, but after the initial "not right now" they are content to talk for a while. On some evenings it has gotten quite interesting. And sometimes it does end up in a room as well, and then it is really great. So in summary, if you want great girls at a very good price, this is a GOOD club. If you want a place to go with a group, and spend a few hours relaxing, and a longer time in the rooms, this is a GREAT club. I hope this helps everyone that decides to visit this club enjoy it for what it is, as it is not another Atlantis or Oase. Those clubs have their own strengths as well. Al | ||
| Al Bundy (Ab) New Contributor Username: Ab Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2003 Rating: N/A |
Stopped by here on a Saturday night again, and nothing new to report. Still the same wonderful girls, great food, outstanding service, and cheaper prices so I can stay in the room for a couple of hours at a time. Guests are the same guys always here on Saturday. Guess I now fall into that group as well! If you go the first time, better to go with a group if you can. But it is still in my top 3 clubs - HG, Bernds, Relax. Big surprise huh?? Al | ||
| Robuk Contributor Username: robuk Post Number: 28 Registered: 7-2002 Rating: N/A |
Report of visit Saturday December 14, 2002 FKK Happy-Garden Niehler Strasse 66 Cologne +49-221-72 95 79 Open: Mon-Sat 20.00-05.00 I thought I’d try somewhere new and saw this place advertised in the ‘Express’ newspaper. Within walking distance of my hotel, about a mile or so north of the Hauptbahnhof; easy to find along a main (but dark and deserted) street with a prominent sign. After entering you go to the left into a long, narrow bar area where the girls sit. The whole place is deep and narrow; towards the back are a couple of lounge areas, a bedroom then a shower/Jacuzzi area with sauna and changing rooms. The place opens at 20.00 and I’d arrived at 20.40. The barlady said there would be 6/7 girls from 21.00ish. I asked what the girls did (kuessen, schmusen, Franzoesisch?) but she said I’d have to ask them – not promising, I thought. There were two women already there. A (friendly) blonde, well past it with sagging breasts/body and dark, hollow, eyes – not a good advertisement. The other was much better; medium length dark hair, medium height, large breasts, lovely legs and ass (in tight denim shorts) though, at late 20s she’d seen better days. “She’ll do,” I thought, “if nothing else turns up.” I spent some time in the Jacuzzi and sauna, sat in the lounge; spoke to the brunette (Jasmine) as she walked past and she helped me with my German. Another brunette arrived, medium-size, nice figure, medium-size firm breasts but, at early-mid 30s, she was past her prime. A black girl arrived and said hello. She was petite with straight, ‘blonde’ hair (done every two weeks), pretty face, ass a bit big for my liking but nice large, firm breasts. Sitting in the lounge you are totally out of what is going on so I decided to join the girls at the bar, have a couple of beers (€5 for a bottle of Pils or Koelsch) and see what happened. The size and shape of the bar made it difficult to eye-up the girls, but I thought I’d go for the first brunette. The black girl sat next to me and started giving me the come-on. “One more beer,” I thought “then I’ll go with Jasmine - lovely ass!” There was one other customer in the place, he’d been there when I arrived, didn’t seem to want to talk and spent the time wandering around looking uncomfortable. He went off with Jasmine. Shit! That’ll take her out of circulation for an hour! The black girl started talking to me. I was aloof at first but she was kind of cute and looked like she would show a guy a good time. Also she spoke English, the main language where she came from, Nigeria. Her name was Eva, she was 25 years old and had been in Germany and Happy Garden for a year, though she said she’d worked briefly in FKK Sudbad six months before. She explained the prices. €68 for each 20 min session but there didn’t seem to be any ‘couch action’ and this wasn’t a ‘tabulos’ establishment. I explained what I liked and she said she could tailor her actions to my wishes and would make me happy. I decided to go with her and paid for two sessions – by now Jasmine had returned; I’d clearly over-estimated the time. We sat in the lounge but she didn’t have much of an idea what ‘couch action’ was and there was no kissing (at all) or proper cuddling – but she hadn’t started the clock. We went down a spiral staircase to a basement where there were 4 cosy rooms. We went into a good-sized but very dark room and she stripped off her string panties. I spent a while exploring her body, she was very wet but her pussy stubble needed attention. She didn’t seem to have a routine, I realised it was up to me to make the running. I got her to give me some (desultory) hand stimulation and suggested oral, which, not unexpectedly, required a condom. Now, I am no exponent of the industrial vacuum cleaner approach to oral sex so beloved of some FKK girls, but Eva’s was at the other end of the spectrum. Did I want to have sex now she asked. Well, it wasn’t going to get any better so why not I thought. I took her on her back with her legs over my shoulders; I’m not sure anyone had done that to her before! She actually felt very nice and I just let myself come. We still had time left; it was going to be a long half hour. She forgot about the condom, which I had to remove myself. We cuddled a bit and talked. She asked me if I knew the Sudbad girls. I rattled off a few names. Did I know Latifa; black girl (with light skin), tall with tattoo? She was her flatmate and the only black Sudbad girl. It wasn’t clear exactly when Eva had worked in Sudbad herself but I suddenly realised! Eva was the pretty black girl sitting at the Sudbad bar with Sabrina back in August – the girl whose ears pricked up when she heard me speak English and was just bursting for me to talk to her. So I got to have both after all! She didn’t seem to remember Sabrina, which was a real shame; her English wasn’t always clear. She asked me to give her a massage as she lay on her stomach. I sat on her firm, ample ass and spent some minutes massaging her shoulders and hips. This position seemed to grow on me as did my penis, nestling between her ass cheeks. I moved back, opened her legs and began to finger her very wet pussy. I moved over to let her sit up and rub me a little. “I like your dick,” she said, “It’s very nice.” This kind of talk did no harm at all. I looked at my watch. 23 minutes. Shit! “Looks like you’ll need another condom,” I joked. “Yes,” she said “I’ll go and ask one of the girls for one” and promptly left the room and went back up the stairs. I just couldn’t believe it. Here I w |
