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Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 1:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Planet Happy Garden
Butzenstrasse 41
47918 Tönisvorst-Oedt
Tel 02152 519103

Hours
Monday - Saturday
11am - 1am
Sunday 3pm - 1am

Cost
Entry 50€
Sessions
25€ Sex (bj with condom) 30 min
50€ Sex (bj without condom)30 min
75€ Sex (bj without condom)60 min

Extras
Solarium, Sauna, Buffet

Web Site
More Maps

logo
Neon Sign

room
Room

terrace
Terrace

cafe
The rear Bar once a pool

lobby
Entry Lobby with Statue of Marylin

haus
Heavy Security Exterior

garten
The Garden

bar
The main bar


map

Directions

Take the A44 Krefeld - Monchengladbach, exit 23 (Munchheide), after leaving the autobahn turn left and drive straight on for about 10 km. When there's a sign with the direction "Oedt" to the left, take this turn. Drive straight on at the next bigger junction until just before the second junction (end of this road), there's the entrance to Happy Garden.
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Lodging

Hotel Haus Sittard
Rheinstrasse 6
41749 Viersen - Süchteln
Tel 02162 6077
Fax 02162 77442
26 Beds
10 Single Rooms
8 Double Rooms
Single Rooom with Breakfast 38€
Without Breakfast 35€
Bowling, Parking area

Höhen Hotel Gehring
Hindenburgstrasse 67
41749 Viersen - Süchteln
Tel 02162 7277
Tel 02162 7278
Fax 02162 80359
25 Beds
6 Single Rooms
9 Double Rooms
Single Room with Bath 90€
Double Room with Bath 140€
Parking Area and Garage

Hotel Restaurant Haus Berger
Lobbericher Strasse 20
41749 Viersen - Süchteln
Tel 02162 6127
Fax 02162 979994
14 Beds
1 Single Room 30€
6 Double Rooms 55€
Rooms include bath
Parking area and Garage

Hotel Gartz
Tönisvorster Straße 35
41747 Viersen - Süchteln
Tel 02162 6067

Haus Vorst
Kuhstraße 4
41918 Tönisvorst
Tel 02156 7047

Hotel Haffmans
Markt 12-14
47929 Grefrath
Tel 02158 91660

Grefrather Hof Akzent Hotel
Am Eisstadion
47929 Grefrath
Tel 02158 4070

Hotel Schumeckers
Hohe Straße 36a
47929 Grefrath
Tel 02158 3888

Hotels listed are 10Km or closer to PHG
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Girls at PHG usually ask that the negoiations take place in the room. This may be a rule so the club can listen in. This is standard in many of the Nevada brothels so you had to use hand signals or pen and paper to make a deal.

Please note Happy Garden is open on Sundays at 3pm.

If you like Happy Garden you may prefer Wildenrath's Parksauna which is owned by the same people. They do have a slightly different way of doing business. 70dm entry, you pay the girl 150dm before your session. All girls are usually naked as opposed to Happy Garden. You also can expect some couch action prior to the room visit.
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2001 - 10:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I made two visit to my favorite club in Germany Planet Happy Garden this week. I visited this place almost 10 time in the past 5 year. It was very quiet when I visit Sunday night as was apparent by the lack of car in the parking lot. Due to my popularity I only pay 100 dm entry rather then the usual 120dm other customer pay.
About 15 girl and 10 customer were present, from my impression of the quality I suspect that most of the men could find a girl that was suitable. Since my standard are higher then most I personally feel that the average girl is less attractive then they once were a year ago. Being the typical Asian I selected an amazon type Russian gal named "Badinka", (Why are all Russian girl named Badinka?) She was the typical blonde, tall, slim, doll faced Russian you find at most club. She was instantly attracted to me as our eyes locked on one anothers and oh my her smile. When she smile I instantly knew this was a good sign. In the room she perform the best oral stimulation I have ever had compounded by generous Gal Friend Sex. She is now my girl friend and If I decide to return to Germany she is on my list to do again.
I return on Monday and things were a bit strange now. This was not the first time I had visit on Monday and in past it was expected to be slow but not this time. Again there was only one car in the parking lot which almost made me not even enter the club. Now there were only 8 girl visable and a very few customer is it possible they were not yet fully operational for business?
As usual my luck was excellente with the girl as I locked on to my first girl "Babuska" from Bulgaria (Why are all the Bulgarian girls named Babuska?) I won't share what happen in the room but I will say it was just average. By chance on this slow day I ran into another one of my favorite "Olgato" from Poland. She under 30 and as stated by your Polish expert here on the board Polish girl make the best sex worker and are high on my "to do" list. The sex we had was again Gal Friend Sex, I soon had her screaming in pleasure as I used my dinky on her so she cum real fast. I can attest to this as her pussy was oh so sensitive and her response may be too authentic. This may also be due to I being a regular and having had many sessions with her and repeat session usually make for better service. I highly doubt it was the extra 500dm I tip her the last time I visit or can this be what the German Mann call customer service? So I apply this method to "Badinka" {a repeat} who would be my number 3 screw of the day. This time I had better time but I do not care to share details as I don't want the girls talking about me.
My limited view is that less man care to share the details on the web but being the experienced sex traveler I am I feel like sharing with the board today.
You may enjoy...
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Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 2:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think guys need to keep in mind that you can't judge a place by one report, one visit or even one session with a girl. I've been to Happy Garden over a dozen times in a period of a few years. I've visited and and left without doing one girl bu then I've also visited and done 4 women.

You can't beat the price 50dm with condom oral and sex pr 100dm for non-codom oral and sex. The women will most likely try and convince you do go the non-condom oral route. It's kinda hard to refuse when your in her mouth and she asks you to select the 50dm or 100dm price.

I suggest people be more open as this hobby is based on humans who can have a bad day just as well as a great day. Just selecting a girl on looks often leads to a bad experience if the chemistry between you does not work.

It's true that Happy Garden is not what one would say an actual "FKK" club but then neither is Park Sauna or Dolce Vita. Some places the women are totally nude while others they wear lingerie or bathing suits. We need to bare in mind that we are also getting sex for $70-$100 which is cheap by US standards.

I suggest unless you hear lots of guys posting that a place is bad that you judge it for yourself. Personally I've heard more good things about Planet Happy Garden then bad.

Can you really judge a place by one girl and the fact that someone may have visited during a peak period? Truth is if there are lots of guys then the club can't be that bad. I suppose if the club was empty and you had 20 women that were never busy that would mean that the club was good? Let's face it the fact that you have lots of men means a place just may be good.

When I hear several opposing views about a club it's just one more reason to visit and find out for myself.
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Posted on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have visited Planet Happy Garden (PHG) twice in the past year. While I agree totally that it does not compare to Parksauna and St. Augustine or Bernd's in "genuine" FKK quality sex, it is an amazing way to spend a full Saturday or Sunday evening. The fact that they serve real beer, with the combination of lunch and dinner buffets AND 50DM parties if you choose oral with, it is an amazing value and amazing time. I have had nothing but great experiences here and have sampled some spectacular babes, even if public sex is taboo and there is no couch action.

It IS true that my best FKK experiences have been at St. A/Bernd's and the variety cannot be beat at Atlantis, but I do enjoy shift change at PHG. The introduction of 15-20 new spectacular babes along about 5pm is very intriguing.

I look forward to re-creating my past experiences and finding some new diamonds in the rough. All input is appreciated and will be reciprocated with full travel reports.
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Al Bundy
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Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 6:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Check my past posts for details on the food/German behavior at this club. It is something I have not found anywhere else. The only time it works OK is when the cook stands there and serves the food himself, thus limiting portion size and somewhat assuring everybody might get something. However the club does not seam to really care that some customers might end up quite hungry by the end of the evening. But then as you say, we are not really here for the food. The good news is that if you are looking for some special girl, she will likely surface just before feeding time, and perhaps you can catch her then.

It has been my experience over the last year or more of going to this club that there is always a good selection of about 20+ girls. It is hard to get an accurate count, as a good number will be in a room for 1 or 2 hours. Unless you know most of them from memory, you can't really count. Also, this club seems to attract or specialize in a large number of Polish and Russian girls. There is always a good group of each. Other Eastern types as well, and some German and Oriental lately, but for some reason this seams to be a club with about 75% from these two areas. The service is always good, the prices (obviously) can't be beat. And if you are willing to spend more than the basic 25E for 1/2 hour with, you are very popular. For an hour without, you are promoted to King status!

As for days of the week, this is also pretty consistent as for count. Perhaps the weekends (especially Sunday) might be a little lighter, but it has not been a problem. Some of the girls do not work the weekend, but then others just work then. The only thing I have seen is for the girls that work the week, and then take the weekend off (Saturday and Sunday), they can be pretty tired by Friday night. ALso the club is especially jammed Fridays, so lately I have tried to avoid that evening. I was actually a bit surprised when I arrived on Thursday afternoon at about 3 PM, and found the parking lot jammed! Guess Germans don't have a pattern to their activities. Anytime must work for them. One of these days I am going over there at about 11:00 AM and see what's up!

The pool at Happy Garden has been closed and turned into more bar space. It was not really open 2 weks ago, but is almost ready. (Same kind of stunt they did at Babylon a year or so ago.) Personally, I liked the pool better, but the bar does get very crowded.

As for pricing, it is 50DM per 30 minutes. If you want it without condom, it is a 1-time 50DM extra, so 1 hour without costs 150DM.

Yes it does get very crowded on Saturdays. Actually I will likely be part of the crowd this Saturday, as there is a group of us heading up there. Food has always been around on the weekend, but you had better be there when it comes out as it only lasts about 20-30 minutes.

I was here Thursday night, and it is still great. Lots of new talent since I was here 6 weeks ago, but a number of the origianls as well. Jill is always here and very friendly. Had a nice session with Sandara who has now gotten small implants. Looks and feels great. Gives a nice service too.

Many new other girls, some of them unbelievably beautiful, which seems to be the norm here. With a high percentage of the girls from Poland and eastern Europe, this meets my needs very well for looks. Service for me has always been good.

Also had a nice session with an older Tai girl (Pia). Lots of fun, very GFE, I even surprised her (and me a little as well) by getting her off twice (once oral, once normal) before she decided she better finish me.

If you are up in this part of Germany, this club is always interesting. Also, as per my past posts, the German customers are animals when the food comes out. It was all gone in less than 20 minutes! I was not standing in line, so came up empty. This is the only real negative about this place.

Yes, this is one of the most difficult places to find, and re-find. For me I think it is because most of the roads in the area are set up in a ring fashion around Kempen. My mind is more used to thinking in a more othogonal manner, so this causes confusion. I have now been there enough I know a couple of ways to get there (from the A45 and A61), so it's not so bad. Best idea is to stay in the area over the weekend, and just drive around for a few hours to get the lay of the land.

One other useful technique for finding places initially is to drive to a nearby town, and then hire a cab to FOLLOW there. They get paid either way and I am told don't mind a bit, and if you are like me you will probably never learn the way if you just ride there. I need to drive it for myself to get it to stick.
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Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 1:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Regulars or locals are what keep these places in business. Many of them know the management well and likewise get better treatment. It's impossible to just act like one, aside from taking charge to get in line for food the women know who is who. PHG is the sister club to Parksauna where this is also common. It's all very common business practice, who do you stand behind? A guy who comes in a couple times or guys who come in ALL the time? It's also common that when most of the regulars arrive they have priority over the women that know them. Some guys see the same girl the same time each week, thus your 50-100 Euros means nothing when some of these guys take the same girl for several hours for 200-300 Euros every week. I don't care how special you think you are, wait till a regular comes between you and your selection, you'll lose every time. I suggest you mind your manners and be polite as you may get the boot and ruin it for all non-regulars. Please remember these are PRIVATE clubs not PUBLIC places and they don't have to let you in.

This is just my humble oppinion from visiting PHG.
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Let this lurker and ocasional poster add his two cents to this discussion about PHG. Yes the locals and regulars get,and should be given more attention then us occasional visitors. I have only been to that club a couple of times. But, I have found that a little humble agression will work almost every time. When the food comes out, I act like the locals. I am not shy about getting right in there in the front of line. And, I take what I want. You know, when in Rome do as the Romans do. Also, I use a bit of peaceful aggresiveness where the girls are concerned too. When I'm looking for a particular girl, I sit in the rear area of the club, near the door to the backyard area. It seems that usually every girl passes there sooner or later. When the lady I want goes by, I go after her before she gets back out to the bar area. If she refuses me, then I simply move on to plan B...a different girl. I don't take rejection well. I have been able to get most of the women I lusted after in this way. Try it.
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On this trip I did 2 back-to-back days here. This is a useful technique, as it usually makes it possible to catch some of the better girls that might be very busy. I came with 3 friends, so there was a nice group of us on Saturday night, and Sunday with 1 friend. I must say, Saturday night was the best visit I have ever had here, especially with regards to the girls and customers.

Saturday was busy, but not a mob scene (usually it is a mob scene!). There were a large number of girls, and overall quality was very high. For some reason, all the girls and all the customers were very friendly. All 3 of my friends speak no German, and they even had a great time talking to the girls and guests. We were there from 16:00 til close, and never had a bad moment. All of us had great sessions.

As for me, I made a repeat visit with a Brazillian girl who has been here for over 1 year(used to be at Meindorf). As I know she can be extremely hot and wild, I went straight to her. We proceeded to thrash around and completely dishevel the room. Best session I have had in a while.

Sunday night was also fun, but much fewer guests and girls. This is normal at this club, so I was not surprised. Still, there were a good number of quality girls, and no problems again.

This club is still very high on my list. Even if it was not so inexpensive, the constant high level of girls would still make it a must see. If you have not been here, do so.

One word of information (warning) - the pricing here for some reason is confusing, even though it should not be. We did hear one girl (another Brazillian or South America type) telling guests that it was 100 for 1 hour no matter what she did. I asked the management for the "official" rates, and it was confirmed that basic service is 25 for each 1/2 hour, with a ONE TIME charge of +25 if you want BBBJ (without condom). FT or anal is negotiated seperately with the girl. (Friends have told me FT is either free, or +25, depending on the girl and how long you spend in the room. YMMV!) This means 1 hour with is 50, without is 75, etc.

In addition to the information in the public section, I will add that the second girl informed me they were not allowed to charge for "extras". I did not think to have her go over all the rules of charging with me, but I sure will the next time. Hopefully she is there when I return in 2 weeks. Both of these girls did not charge anything extra, and did outstanding service with FT at the end. I did not even ask for it, and in fact let them know (for sure!) that I was over the edge and they could stop easily if they had wanted to.

The custom is pretty consistent accross all clubs, especially here, and it is this - time is running until you pop. Shortly after that you will be asked if you want to leave the room, and you will be charged an appropriate amount (the usual is 50 Euro if no extras were involved). If you elect to stay, the clock continues running, but it is assumed and expected you will be there longer than the 1/2 hour minimum. I suppose some of you young dudes can manage 2 pops in a 30-minute period, but I sure can't! I am not aware of anyplace that will allow 2 shots in a 30 minute session, so don't expect this. At Happy Garden it is especially common for a guest to stay in the room with the girl for a longer period. My average time is around 90 minutes, and that is normally only 1 shot for me, but hopefully you can do better. I just enjoy spending time with these girls, many of whom I know reasonably well, or want to get to know. Also, they will all be pretty good about telling you when the 30 minutes is up, so you won't go over without realizing it (some other clubs but not all do this). I have gotten in the habit only at Happy Garden of telling the girl up front I don't really care about the time (and hence money), so this often leads to a better session. Just be prepared to spend at least 1 hour if you do this. Sometimes I will say "No problem up to 2 hours" and this then puts some kind of boundary on it. The girls are always happy with this, then they don't really have to worry either.

As for FT, is stands for Französich Total, or Freench Total, and is the term used to indicate when you cum in her mouth. In my recent experiences this is getting more popular, and more girls are doing it. But BE SURE to either ask the girl before you start (to be certain she does it, and what the extra costs to you might be), or if you get carried away at the moment, make clear verbal ("OK, OK!) AND physical indications (tap firmly on her body somewhere at the same time you are verbalizing) that you are at the end of your rope. This gives her the option of pulling off at the last second, and does not really kill the finish for you. The best approach is to set everything up in advance, then there is no worry.

Some of my best FT's have happened when I was not really expecting or planning them, the girls just kept going. This has been the case here more than other places. For me it is not a problem, as I am familiar with the prices, girls, and clubs, and they mostly know me as a regular guest. For new guests, this could lead to confusion about the money ("You didn't tell me it cost extra!", stuff like that).

Back here again on Saturday afternoon and evening, and again terrific service. Club was jumping.

I did some confirmation with a girl I now know well, and she speaks excellent English to avoid any possible confusion. The "official" club policy is 25 E for every half hour, with 1-time extra charges for BBBJ, FT. We did not discuss cum-on-body, but it should be no more than FT, and might not be anything extra. Anal was also not explicitly discussed (I did not really think to ask about it), but we were mostly discussing "all extras" being 25 extra.

So, for those of you that like FT, a 1-hour session (if you can last that long! ) would be 50+25+25 = 100 Euro. Or for guys like me that like to relax and talk, etc. my 2-hour sessions are 150. Just about half what it costs in Frankfurt.

In my experience, the level of service here is tops. Like any club, you can sometimes have a bad experience, and if it is really bad, you should say something to the management. They really do care here, and will try to correct the problem. Best if you do it right away, and not wait until you leave, as you will then remeber the girls name, could point her out, etc.

Daniella was away on holiday. Both of these girls were new to me, and somewhat new to the club.

BTW, I have often stated the financial advantages of this club (in addition to the great girls). 1st trip to the room was 1 hour, FT finsh, 75 Euro.
2nd girl, 2 hours, FT finish 125! Compare this to the 250 at Atlantis or Oase or ?? and it looks even better here.
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I was just here on Saturday April 19, and for me it was as always - great! I have heard a few reports like FKK has reported, but none recently. I do often visit with Daniella, but she was off on holiday this time. This gave me the opportunity to check out some of the other girls, and I was very pleasantly surprised.

First was a Russian - Aleena. Limited English German and Russian just fine. Sevice was terrific, with a killer body to go with it. Only 2 small problems - she tends to cover too much of it up so you don't know how great it is until you get to the room, and for me she must have decided she wanted to do FT no matter what once I expressed my total satisfaction with her technique! I tried to get her off (not too hard mind you), but she went right back to it, so I let her finish up. No extra charges, just complete satisfaction.

Next was the great body from Hungary, who now lives in Holland - Daniell. (Not to be confused with Daniella from Brazil, although they are friends as well). Not the prettiest face in the world, but a really great body, excellent English, and service to die for. No problems except my lack of energy at this point. She took care of that also. After BBBJ and multiple positions, I was too tired to pop. So we just talked for a while to rest up, then she informed me she had no intention of quitting on me (after being sure I knew what the time was so as not to spend a lot of time without my OK), and them proceeded to perform the second FT of the day! I guess I must have had some invisible sign on my head that said "Blow me!" as both of these actions came without asking or extra money. Be warned - YMMV, but this is what happened to me. And neither girl was really aware that I am somewhat of a regular, as both were new to the club.

As you may surmise, I am a real fan of this club. But I do understand it is a bit different, and there can be problems in any club. Actually, I was a great fan of Atlantis, and have not had much success there of late. This also will change.

Al
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My last visit here was a bit disappointing, they've improved the facility with removing the pool and adding a lower level bar. However the women seem to have gone downhill. Not in the looks department but the attitude. Some would not do basics like kiss. Others where down right rude once you got to the room. Several of the guys I was with walked on the girls (without paying) even after geting into the room. I suggest you NOT be afraid to speak up to the bar maid (woman who took your 50 Euro at the door) and tell her of any problems you might have experienced. Management has made it clear to me that they are in fact interested in hearing your problems. There are a few gems worth trying like the legendary "Jill" the blond, great body, the sun has appeared to have taken it's toll on her. She does do some great oral and likes "ANAL" for you butt men out there. She's also very sweet and popular. The two Brazilian women are also not bad, with Danielle being our first choice. She used to work at Babylon and then the old Meindof FKK near Saint Augustine. Most of the other attractions are from eastern block countries. Sure they smile and act sweet but wait till you get to the room. If this happens to you just leave the room and say "forgetaboutit". Part of it is showing WHO is the boss and you as the customer are the BOSS. Don't for get that.
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The best place to sit that I have found is to the far right of the bar (when facing the bar). There's a smaller area with a door to the main office. The women must check in and check out via the office and this door. So if you sit anywhere where you can view access to this door you'll most likely see all the women.

Should I be rejected I most likely will not ask a girl again, however I know a few girls well at PHG and from conversations I understand why they may refuse. For example I asked a girl to go to the room when she was just sitting in the lounge or bar area. She told me that she could not go as she had an appointment with a regular who would be arriving in a few minutes. Her refusal had nothing to do with me but rather that this is how many of the girls do business. She had no problem providing me service when she actually was free. Most non-German speaking guys (whom I bring with me) get the impression that they're being rejected when in fact they may be refused due to a regular. OK, if they continue to sit there for hours on end this is not the case.

Language barriers, not often but sometimes at PHG I've seen women refuse men who don't speak their language. This can also happen at other clubs and I've seen it happen. SO it can help to have someone present that speaks German well enough to get past this.

Food, I don't think the buffet has anything to do with who is who. At Parksauna the food seems to last longer as they usually have less customers. At PHG guys seem to wait for the food to be served as soon as the tell tail signs appear. The table is set, plates and things are put out etc. Then the actual food arrives, usually a meat dish, noodles, rice and salad plus bread. Guys don't waste time and line up to load their plates and pretty soon its all gone. If there were enough for everyone I don't think we would be having this conversation however there never appears to be enough. So it may just be guys are aggressive as they need to be to get any food period. Every time I've visited PHG the food goes fast but then again im not there to eat.

By the way sometimes they have sandwiches in the cooler that has the bottled beer. Look for them as they don't last either.

I've noticed that Europeans (Im one but I live in the US) tend to be more aggressive as far as things like food and buffets go. Growing up in the US I noticed that Americans take food for granted as it is just cheaper and more plentiful. You won't find many buffets like the ones in the US. Hell you even pay for the Catsup packs at Mc Donald's in Germany. You won't find many FREE refill drinks or self serve softdrinks places in Germany either. Ever notice the "fill to this line" on most cups and glasses? Well people demand their exact cut or share. OK now maybe it makes more sense why the Germans pay $50 for a good piece of ass and non-Germans are paying triple. This still does not explain why they pay more for German cars then we do? Yes I know about the higher taxes but it's all kinda strange how it works.
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As far as being legal, yes and no, in reality they have found some ways to work around prostitution. If you notice you pay the women directly at many clubs and not to the club. Yes you pay an entrance fee. In fact at some clubs it's well known that what you do behind closed doors is your business but they don't want "women" and the club providing them known. Forgive me if this sounds a bit confusing but it has to do with licenses and taxes from what I've been told. Did you ever notice the name at the now closed Meindorf club "Private Party Treff". It does not say Meindorf Brothel or Meindorf Whorehouse. Compare this to the "Chicken Ranch" in Nevada where the house actually takes half of what the girls make. It's a meeting point (like the name states) rather then a brothel but from our point of view we see it as a brothel. Perhaps it's more the way Germany views rights and what people do behind closed doors. If you think about it that is what fucks up sex in the US. So legally NO you can't set up a whorehouse in many places but you can work around that and have a paid party house where they provide lockers, sauna, pool etc. (They don't provide sex). Remember the women pay to enter also and you just happen to be there.If you happen to meet a woman and use a room and then tip her, well you both leave happy. Ever wonder why they have sauna's, think about it a whorehouse only needs a bed and a room to function but for show it looks better to have all that non-sexual reasons to go there. Something to ponder.... I found this out when I did a inside photo and video shoot a few months ago at Atlantis and Sainkt Augustine. Yes I got permission and the video should be out in a few weeks. Let me say that every club is a bit different as is the region its located in. Legal.. well that really depends how we look at it. It's only sex.....
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Went for the first time to PHG on a Friday. Because of obligations (work) I only arrived at around 21.00h. It is not easy to find but with some assistance from an online routeplanner (I used www.maporama.com), or a good lokal map you should find it. It is situated near Oedt and Tönisvorst and when you reach it in the dark you’ll notice it by it lights ( the name isn’t very visible from the main road). When I arrived the parking was full and I had to park my car at the end of the street. There is enough parking space.
When you reach the door there is a doorbell that you have to push so they can let you in. Once inside they ask if it is your first time and if so they explain the prices and tell you where you can change and shower.
After I got my bathrobe, towel and locker key I headed to the changing room to get undressed. This is a room between the main bar (where most of the people are) and the so called ‘nightbar’ (which was a former swimmingpool), showers and the sauna’s. So everybody passes this area to go from the bar to the other areas. After the shower I started to walk around and talk a look at the different facilities. The bar in the back was pretty empty so I headed for the main bar. 90% of the girls is here. They sit at the bar, against the wall, or play on the videogame in the back where there are also some couches. Completely in the back of this bar is a little room with some more couches and a door to the terrasse.
Because it was Friday and I supposed that it would be the busiest day of the week I decided to look around for a while. Despite the amount of clients there where always about 15 to 20 girls waiting in the bar. At first it might be a good idea to wait for about 30 minutes before going for it because there are constantly coming and going girls in and out this room.
Most of the girls try to get your attention by looking at you or walking in front of you deliberatly.
In my case one girl came to me (I was sitting for only 5 minutes at the bar !) and started talking to me. She asked if I wanted some company or wanted to wait a bit. After I explained that I just arrived and wanted to look around first she left, but said that I could always come back to her. She was always friendly and even at the end of the evening she still smiled to me.
After some looking around I found it time to get some action. There where three girls standing at a table against the wall. So I looked at one of them and almost instantly she looked back. Without saying a word she knew I wanted her and she went to the back to get a roomkey. She was from Tunesia and her name was Sheila. She has darkbrown hair and is about 1.70 m tall. She is not extremely slim but I would say rather normal build with a pretty big pair of knockers (I guess D-cup). She likes to talk (german) and is very friendly. She undressed herself while sitting on the bed and talking to me. After that she French kissed me and pressed her lovely upper curves against my face. Unfortunaltely I was so excited (I guess from her appearance and from the general atmosphere in the house) that I came way to soon while we were in the 69 position. I can’t blame Sheile for it because she was very gentile and she didn’t rush it with the intention to get out of that room as quickly as possible. It was completely my own fault.
After this experience I decided to return to the bar and drink a beer. After a while Sheila entered the room again (after she showered). This experience is, for me, a bit new because I am not used to it that the girl that you have been with sits again in the same room as you. When you go to a private house or so you mostly leave after your ‘date’. But here you meet each other again constantly and they see and know which girl(s) you pick.
After I finished my beer I decided to go and have a shower since I still didn’t shower after my experience with Sheila. So I headed to the shower and funny about this is that some girls shower at the same place as the men (most of the girls don’t do that but I have seen 2 of them).
After this shower I headed back again to the main bar because the other bar was still pretty empty and it would stay that way for the entire evening.
Back in the bar it became pretty crowded but a lot of those german men sat at the bar drinking and talking to their friends and some of the girls. A lot of the customers come there in group. I read once on a forum that Friday evening is to be avoided since it is to crowded and you have to wait a while for an empty room or for a girl. I have never had that experience. I asked one of the girls if it was a busy evening and she replyed by saying that it was a normal evening.
My second girl was Adriana. A Brazilian girl, about 1.60m tall, slim build an 24 years old. She is a very lively girl and when she noticed I was interested she jumped of her chair and came straight to me. While she went for a key I waited in the lobby for her and as she came back she passed Sheila (my first experience) and Sheila stopped Adriana and spoke to her. When she came through she asked me to take a shower first. A bit wondered I said to her that I already did and she at first didn’t believe me. So I think that Sheila told Adriana that she thought I didn’t take a shower after we met because I was back in the bar sooner than she was. (I did take a shower but only after I had a beer !). The positive side of this is that it reflects the tidyness of the PHG environment (The place it self, the showers, the rooms and the girls) So I didn’t take it personally although Sheila should have spoken with me about it first.
Adriana was also a good experience, but completely different than Sheila. She kneeled besides me on the bed and while she was busy with my lower parts I could play with hers. After this she came on top of me and jumped up and down as if her live depends on it. It was a special experience but a bit to heavy fo me.
So after this I decided to take a shower immediately !
My third pick was Sabrina, a blond girl from eastern Europe that is already 2 years at PHG ! She is very friendly and likes to talk and ask some questions. I would compare this experience with Adriana with one big difference. She is more relaxed and does things a bit slower and more like a girlfriend. Afterwards she didn’t rush back into her clothes to get out (as a matter of fact none did) but sat on the bed and talked some more.
After this I decided to leave after a last look at the bar. So I enjoyed one last beer before leaving. It was past midnight and a lot of customers (and girls) already left. (PHG closes at 01.00h).
When I left the management asked me if I liked it and as usual they are very friendly.

Summary :
PHG was a good experience. The girls are very nice and there is a good atmosphere. For me this is a place where I will return. The only problem that I had was the language barrier. My german is not that good to be able to talk about everything so it might be nice if some more girls could understand and/or talk english.
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Daniella is indeed the girl I have had many great sessions with. Sometimes she is a bit tired, and so it is not world class, but mostly she is fantastic for fun, unihibited action. Best to catch her early in the week if you can. Also, she has told me she sometimes does not work the weekend.

As for the other girl from Brazil, I do not know anything about her other than her incorrect ideas about pricing, and that is not even first hand. The point was not to influence anybody on their selection, just to illustrate the need to be clear about the pricing policy.

I also had another good session with a blonde Polish girl - Jullietta. Also my friends went with her and had a wonderful time. She was very active and willing to please.

Hope this is all OK now...

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Jeez, by the look of this thread I am the only guy still going here! On the otherhand, it could be that this club has always provided many very attractive girls at a very reasonable price, so what else is new? I once again had a great Saturday evening visit, and another wild ride with Daniella. It seems when she is there, I am drawn to her immediately, and then I am often completed wiped out for anybody else. Too bad, as there are so many good choices. Guess I just need to get here more often so I can check out some of the other girls as well....

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As for how to get to HG, this is probably the most difficult question you could possibly ask. Some of the clubs can be hard to find, but HG is the most difficult I know of. This is not because it is hidden, but rather because of the strange roads in the area. All the roads around the town of Kempen are in a kind of ring. Add to this that many roads wander around alot up there, and it becomes very difficult to keep your bearings and stuff. In addition there are not many unique landmarks - many farms or intersections look very similar.

As for speed traps I have never had a problem, nor can I recall seeing any radar setups in the towns. However, I am always careful to stay at 50 in any town. It is really the only safe and curteous thing to do. The autobahn - well that's another matter!

So, I have 2 ways that work for me. For both of these I suggest you get a map of the area - not Autoroute, or written directions, but a real map you can look at in advance. Study the general area. You will find HG between Kempen and Oedt. There is a small road that intersects about 2/3rds of the way from Kempen to Oedt. Going in this direction, HG is on the far left corner, but once here it is obvious where it must be. Now, how to get here.

(Warning - this is all from memory as my maps are always left in Germany!)

Method 1 - Take A61 North to exit 5 (yes I know 6 looks more direct, but 5 is easier). Go North and turn right about 2 miles up toward Grefrath on B509. This road wannders a bit, but eventually passes on the south side of Grefrath, headed toward Kempen. Go past a few stop lights, over a river, and then be ready to turn right at the light toward Oedt. This road will lead you into the center of Oedt (very small). Turn left at a "T" in the center of town. (It's a small road and somewhat hard to see from this direction.) Go out of town to the intersection in the middle of nowhere, and HG is on the right side.

The other method is to take A40 headed West. Take exit 4 and turn right towards Kempen. Watch for another right at a "T" that will also lead to Kempen. Take this road in towards Kempen. Once in city limits, you pass a gas station on the left. Take the next right at the light. There is a sign for "Krankenhaus". Follow this road around in a semi-circle and keep going past all the houses, etc. This road will eventually leave the city limits, and head towards Oedt. Again, you want the intersection in the middle of nowhere, but this time HG is on the left. If you hit Oedt, you obviously went too far, so turn around.

Check this all with a real map, and it will help you a lot. Also I noticed the map on this web page is not quit correct as to the location of the club. It is almost on the corner, beside an industrial type business.

Good luck. Let me know how your visit goes if you make it. Believe me, it's worth the trip. I often drive all the way from Frankfurt (3 hrs + sometimes), spend the evening and then drive back (only 2.25 hours in the middle of the night! Yes, I do book down the AutoBahn.)

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Spent last Saturday night here again, and had another wild ride with Daniella. Somehow I can't seem to get past her, even though there are other outstanding girls here.

In discussing this club with others, I find some don't care for it. I will have to say that I have been hot and cold on this club over time. In the end I think it is best to state that for me, this is a top club. I have 3 real constant favorites and this is in the top 2 (Relax, HG and Atlantis). I guess I should post this in the favorites thread, but for those looking into this club I will share my feelings on this club here.

This club for me is a little differnet from the others. It has a very definite character of it's own, and it has taken me a while to feel confortable here. It is not a good club to visit alone. It is more like a local bar, with hot girls available if interested. It seems most of the guests like to just hang at the bar and drink beer, shoot the shit with their buddies, and occasionally go fuck a beautiful woman. This is fine, and can be fun, especially if you have a few buddies there with you. However, I have found that once comfortable here, you can indeed start conversations with the girls (or othe guests sometimes), and they are quite friendly. I have recently had talks with a few, and no further action is expected. Sure, they will ask if you would like to go to a room, but after the initial "not right now" they are content to talk for a while. On some evenings it has gotten quite interesting. And sometimes it does end up in a room as well, and then it is really great.

So in summary, if you want great girls at a very good price, this is a GOOD club. If you want a place to go with a group, and spend a few hours relaxing, and a longer time in the rooms, this is a GREAT club.

I hope this helps everyone that decides to visit this club enjoy it for what it is, as it is not another Atlantis or Oase. Those clubs have their own strengths as well.

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Stopped by here on a Saturday night again, and nothing new to report. Still the same wonderful girls, great food, outstanding service, and cheaper prices so I can stay in the room for a couple of hours at a time. Guests are the same guys always here on Saturday. Guess I now fall into that group as well! If you go the first time, better to go with a group if you can. But it is still in my top 3 clubs - HG, Bernds, Relax. Big surprise huh??

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Report of visit Saturday December 14, 2002

FKK Happy-Garden
Niehler Strasse 66
Cologne
+49-221-72 95 79
Open: Mon-Sat 20.00-05.00

I thought I’d try somewhere new and saw this place advertised in the ‘Express’ newspaper. Within walking distance of my hotel, about a mile or so north of the Hauptbahnhof; easy to find along a main (but dark and deserted) street with a prominent sign. After entering you go to the left into a long, narrow bar area where the girls sit. The whole place is deep and narrow; towards the back are a couple of lounge areas, a bedroom then a shower/Jacuzzi area with sauna and changing rooms.

The place opens at 20.00 and I’d arrived at 20.40. The barlady said there would be 6/7 girls from 21.00ish. I asked what the girls did (kuessen, schmusen, Franzoesisch?) but she said I’d have to ask them – not promising, I thought. There were two women already there. A (friendly) blonde, well past it with sagging breasts/body and dark, hollow, eyes – not a good advertisement. The other was much better; medium length dark hair, medium height, large breasts, lovely legs and ass (in tight denim shorts) though, at late 20s she’d seen better days. “She’ll do,” I thought, “if nothing else turns up.”

I spent some time in the Jacuzzi and sauna, sat in the lounge; spoke to the brunette (Jasmine) as she walked past and she helped me with my German. Another brunette arrived, medium-size, nice figure, medium-size firm breasts but, at early-mid 30s, she was past her prime. A black girl arrived and said hello. She was petite with straight, ‘blonde’ hair (done every two weeks), pretty face, ass a bit big for my liking but nice large, firm breasts. Sitting in the lounge you are totally out of what is going on so I decided to join the girls at the bar, have a couple of beers (€5 for a bottle of Pils or Koelsch) and see what happened. The size and shape of the bar made it difficult to eye-up the girls, but I thought I’d go for the first brunette. The black girl sat next to me and started giving me the come-on. “One more beer,” I thought “then I’ll go with Jasmine - lovely ass!” There was one other customer in the place, he’d been there when I arrived, didn’t seem to want to talk and spent the time wandering around looking uncomfortable. He went off with Jasmine. Shit! That’ll take her out of circulation for an hour! The black girl started talking to me. I was aloof at first but she was kind of cute and looked like she would show a guy a good time. Also she spoke English, the main language where she came from, Nigeria. Her name was Eva, she was 25 years old and had been in Germany and Happy Garden for a year, though she said she’d worked briefly in FKK Sudbad six months before.

She explained the prices. €68 for each 20 min session but there didn’t seem to be any ‘couch action’ and this wasn’t a ‘tabulos’ establishment. I explained what I liked and she said she could tailor her actions to my wishes and would make me happy. I decided to go with her and paid for two sessions – by now Jasmine had returned; I’d clearly over-estimated the time. We sat in the lounge but she didn’t have much of an idea what ‘couch action’ was and there was no kissing (at all) or proper cuddling – but she hadn’t started the clock. We went down a spiral staircase to a basement where there were 4 cosy rooms. We went into a good-sized but very dark room and she stripped off her string panties. I spent a while exploring her body, she was very wet but her pussy stubble needed attention. She didn’t seem to have a routine, I realised it was up to me to make the running. I got her to give me some (desultory) hand stimulation and suggested oral, which, not unexpectedly, required a condom. Now, I am no exponent of the industrial vacuum cleaner approach to oral sex so beloved of some FKK girls, but Eva’s was at the other end of the spectrum. Did I want to have sex now she asked. Well, it wasn’t going to get any better so why not I thought. I took her on her back with her legs over my shoulders; I’m not sure anyone had done that to her before! She actually felt very nice and I just let myself come. We still had time left; it was going to be a long half hour. She forgot about the condom, which I had to remove myself. We cuddled a bit and talked.

She asked me if I knew the Sudbad girls. I rattled off a few names. Did I know Latifa; black girl (with light skin), tall with tattoo? She was her flatmate and the only black Sudbad girl. It wasn’t clear exactly when Eva had worked in Sudbad herself but I suddenly realised! Eva was the pretty black girl sitting at the Sudbad bar with Sabrina back in August – the girl whose ears pricked up when she heard me speak English and was just bursting for me to talk to her. So I got to have both after all! She didn’t seem to remember Sabrina, which was a real shame; her English wasn’t always clear.

She asked me to give her a massage as she lay on her stomach. I sat on her firm, ample ass and spent some minutes massaging her shoulders and hips. This position seemed to grow on me as did my penis, nestling between her ass cheeks. I moved back, opened her legs and began to finger her very wet pussy. I moved over to let her sit up and rub me a little. “I like your dick,” she said, “It’s very nice.” This kind of talk did no harm at all. I looked at my watch. 23 minutes. Shit! “Looks like you’ll need another condom,” I joked. “Yes,” she said “I’ll go and ask one of the girls for one” and promptly left the room and went back up the stairs. I just couldn’t believe it. Here I was, kneeling on the bed ready for action (in record time for me without help from her) with, I reckoned, about 4 minutes of my 40 minutes left – and she’d gone off TO BORROW A F***ING CONDOM. Was she going to ‘phone a friend’ while she was at it? She returned with a condom, put it on me, blew me a little and I very quickly took her as before – well, it would have really pissed me off to have to go into another session. We were in the room from 22.55 to 23.38 so I was a little bit over.

Eva joined me in the shower area and I saw her direct the jet into her most intimate areas. I don’t think there was a proper girls’ room. I thought I’d finish with a couple of beers before leaving. Eva joined me and we chatted a little at the bar. It was very nice. I left just after 01.00. No other girls had arrived and I only saw two other customers. I spoke to the barlady (a tough character). They’d only been opening on a Saturday for a couple of months and it wasn’t their busiest day. She said Eva didn’t really speak much German (nor much English, I thought, perhaps unkindly). I told her what I liked/expected in an FKK…

So, an interesting visit. Not what I’d call a ‘proper’ FKK but, like my visit to FKK Cubana the previous month, I’d found it surprisingly stimulating. I was there over 4 hours! Eva was very natural and a little cute but, compared to other FKK girls, a rank amateur.

Cost: No entrance fee.
2 x €68 (2 x 20 min sessions)
3 x €5 (3 x beer - let me off one beer, not sure why)

Total: € 151



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I visited this Wonderful place last Saturday. Got there at a 3pm opening. (Some kind of holiday so they opened late) I, along with two friends stayed there until almost closing. The club was a little crowded and they need to do something about the poor ventilation in the main bar. Nontheless I had a really nice time. The food was, as always, very good, as is the area near the sunken bar where they serve it. I had two partners that day. The first one was a tall Russian girl named Natale. Blonde, and quite tall. She was level with me when she wore her heels, and I'm 6'4". Very good service. She really knows what to do. She was with a group of other Russian girls. Among them was a little raven haired Russian. She had just the hint of a little belly but still quite shapely and cute. One of my friends went with her. I think he said that her name was Yanna. But don't hold me to that. He was gone with her for quite a long time and when he came back he had a big smile on his face. My guess is that service was great. Later that evening I went with a tiny Thai girl..She looked to be around 16. But told me she was 23. Her name is Long. Very short, very small, around 80-90 pounds. And...nice large breasts. Spoke no English and very little German. No problem with communicaton though. She's very shy, and very GFE. I liked her a lot and will try her again when I return.

Now if only management would do something about the bad air at the bar.
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A return visit here last Saturday night found the HG I know and love. For some reason, the guest count was a little low (the good news), and the girl count and quality was high (the best news)! A few new ones, a few old ones, and many good choices. Even the food was good and plentiful (it has been very good lately), and pizza showed up at 10:30 as well!

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Interesting place which has some ups and downs. I've been to this place within the last year and had great times and I've been here and left the place without even one program. Always some new faces as well as some old. The food is always a plus but at times I feel like livestock waiting in line for the feed call. You need to be on your toes as when the food arrives it goes fast and when it's gone it's gone.

This also applies to the women at the club. So it's a good idea to visit during the week or earlier in the day, the women are fresher and more available. The good ones seem to get snapped up fast and when they return you might have to resort to waiting for her in the entry area to catch her.

The rates at PHG are what make this place special, the first 30 minutes is 50Euro while any additional 30 minute periods are only 25 Euro. (so one (1) hour is 75 Euro) Check your watch, while most of the women are fair some will bill you the extra 5 minutes if you go over the first 30. So take advantage, if you go over the first 30 I suggest you do the entire 30 minutes. Time is money and if you're paying why not?

One of the negatives is the lack of "Couch Service". You won't find it here, it's rare to never. So there's not much to sample or see the actions of a woman with guests. While at other clubs you get an idea of what a woman will do by watching her on the couch, here it's all behind closed doors. Perhaps this is made up by the 25 Euro option (note that some women won't even go to the room for 25 Euro). At least starting with a 25 Euro covered oral session costs you less to sample her skills.

The smoke level here is among the worst at any club, the bar area is loaded with people who smoke and not much ventilation. Once in a while one of the girls will open one of the sliding glass doors to allow some air flow but during the winter months this is rare. Due to the low ceiling and size of the room this adds to the problem.

There is also the problem of the size of the bar area and the number of people. The women are usually seated on the stools across from the bar while the men sit at the bar itself. The women often take turns serving at the bar which also allows the men to catch a better view of her as she struts to the bar, bends over to open the fridge or makes friendly eye contact and smiles to possible victims. The lack of open air makes the smoke even more of a problem. Moving around in the club (the bar area) can get crowded at times. Much of the time you'll struggle to get a seat at the bar.

Robe or not to robe, while at the sister club "Parksauna" in Wildenrath you have a choice the majority of customers at PHG wear a robe. No need to learn to wrap a towel here. But then it often gets hot and I've often wanted to shed the robe in favor of the old favorite "towel". After all "FKK" was a term used to mean "Nudity" in a club, so this is not really an offical "FKK" club as no one is really nude except in the rooms.

Don't forget you need to carry your locker key with you at all times, especially after a session when you're followed by the girl to your locker for payment. When you arrive you hand over your 50 Euro entry fee, "WAIT" for the doormaid to go back to the office to get your key. When she returns not only do you get a locker key but a robe and slippers.

Restrooms, the main restoom is down the hall to the left as you enter the club. First door on the right. NOTE: you have to really "PUSH HARD" on the door as it may seem locked. Inside there is room for more then one person. There is also a toilet in the shower area past the locker room when you get to the first doorway on the left. Past the first shower stall thru the doorway it's on the left.

Another good tip is to bring plenty of change 10's and 5's besides 20's and 50's. Don't expect a girl to provide change and most often she'll suggest you give her a "tip" instead of the change. Get change BEFORE you arrive at the club.

The Bar is probably one of the best as ALL drinks are included in the entry fee. Alcohol is limited to beer which they have many to choose from. Try the bottle of mixed beer and cola. Besides the usual soft drinks they also offer real fruit drinks like orange and apple juice.

The locker room is also a weak point for this club as it's limited in size. They've added some rooms in the form of outdoor cabins. The one issue is that they've run out of space. The locker room tends to get full and elbow room is a problem.

The majority of women at the club (over the past 5 years) have basically been Eastern block. Russian, Polish, Romanian, Turkish etc. You'll also find a few German, Thai, Holland etc. The majority of woman are also younger 18 - 25 and many tend to be slim and attractive.

There are also women that DO NOT KISS, they perform BBBJ but don't kiss and I don't mean "with only some men". I've run into my share of picky women with the kissing issue. 1. It's always a good idea to use mouth wash and mints. 2. Shower well and even some cologne is a plus. 3. Smoking (although lots of women do smoke) means you need to take care of your mouth even more.

There are women that DON'T Kiss at all and then there are women that choose who they kiss. I've been to the room with a woman and had full access to her (with French kissing) and then a friend went and she refused to kiss. This again points to the theory about "it's the woman" and not the club that makes an evening for me.

Al and I have similar taste and we were split about PHG and the service. I think he'll agree that management is not as open and friendly as other clubs. They're known for not allowing some guests entry into the club (without reason). I’m not talking about loud groups either. I've personally never had a problem gaining entry. Perhaps they can be picky as they have a huge following and can be considered the "Atlantis of the North". I've been to this place within the last year and had great times and I've been here and left the place without even one program. Always some new faces as well as some old. The food is always a plus but at times I feel like livestock waiting in line for the feed call.

You need to be on your toes as when the food arrives it goes fast and when it's gone it's gone. This also applies to the women at the club. So it's a good idea to visit during the week or earlier in the day, the women are fresher and more available. The good ones seem to get snapped up fast and when they return you might have to resort to waiting for her in the entry area to catch her. The rates at PHG are what make this place special, the first 30 minutes is 50Euro while any additional 30 minute periods are only 25 Euro. (so one (1) hour is 75 Euro) Check your watch, while most of the women are fair some will bill you the extra 5 minutes if you go over the first 30. So take advantage, if you go over the first 30 I suggest you do the entire 30 minutes. Time is money and if you're paying why not?

The crowds have changed over the years. At one time it was mainly local Germans and today the place is packed with guys from just over the border "Holland". There is mixed reaction over this from the women and the other guests. Wait a minute "Holland" is world famous for their RLD "Red Light districts" so why do they come here? Simple, if you've ever been to Holland and tried the RLD scene and compare it to FKK clubs it's no match. This also might be a result of the Euro, the old Guilder did not fair well against the DMark. Now that the currency has balanced itself out and is the same the guys from Holland seem to flood the place.

One great new addition is the extra parking area now located in front of the club as you arrive. This new addition solves the old problem where the limited parking spaces would fill up quickly. SO plenty of parking is now available.

Lighting is better then most clubs BUT those who have been bitching about sarangs, belts, towels etc, which some women use to conceal body parts will be disappointed as almost ALL the women have a top and bottom on. Many cover even more then that so your view is limited at best. All the great natural light that enters from behind the bar exposes skin and facial features well.

When you depart, you'll have to get buzzzed out by the staff. So make sure once you get dressed they know you want to leave. Note the two security doors when you enter.

Overall this place is still a hit and miss for me. With all the flaws of any club you visit the bounty is having that one great encounter (hopefully two or more). I prefer to visit during the off hours without the crowds and when the women just arrive. Plus there is little to no smoke and no waiting for a room. An optimal visiting period is during shift change in the afternoon when the some new talent arrives. I myself have been here and left without a single session. Which really has nothing to do with the club itself. The fact that "one good program" is what makes it for a visitor. It's secondary that the club is big, impressive and has food. I think this is where SELECTION is king. My most recent visit to the club was positive and enjoyable. The club is always clean, well kept. The additions over the years to the garden and pool area have worked out well.
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I can't remember ever leaving this club without trying at least 1 program, but it is possible. That has happened at every other club I have been to, but if my memory is correct, this place is unique in that respect.

I agree with all that Bob posted. It is crowded, smokey, and can be a problem, especially on Saturday nights (which is when I normally visit). I have tried a Tuesday once, and it was much better, so if you have the option, I would strongly recommend avoiding Friday and Saturday here. Sunday might be a little too slow. According to my inside friends, the week starts slow and builds until Saturday night. Last week was unusual in that Friday was packed, and Saturday was much less. Good for me!

YMMV, but for me HG and Bernd's are the two best. They are very different in many ways, but for fun and service I can't beat them. Yes, I can find an individual girl here or there that is great (try Stella at Atlantis for example), but for overall satisfaction and consistency of service they are the best. If Relax can re-open, it will be 3rd on my list as it is so nice and clean, relaxing, and a great facility, with good (and not agressive) girls.

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Planet Happy Garden Oedt, PHG or just plain Happy Garden as most call it has been upgraded over the years since my fist visit over 7 years ago. Planet Happy Garden is not by any standard an FKK Sauna Club, while the term FKK usually defines that the women are totally naked except for heels this is rarely the case at Planet Happy Garden. Women usually wear swim suits or lingerie. While at Planet Happy Garden one might see a totally woman running thru the bar area or hallway but don't count on seeing one lounging around besides that. Your best bet to see a totally woman outside the room at Planet Happy Garden is to spend time near the two indoor saunas. Some of the women use the saunas.

The pool which used to be located where there is now a pit with a downstairs bar at Planet Happy Garden rarely was used thus the change.

With Planet Happy Garden's history of being one of the most popular clubs in the region is no surprise the rooms fill quickly so visit early as the later you arrive the better the chances are for a traffic jam. The solution to Planet Happy Gardens traffic problems was the addition of small wooden outdoor cabins. Simple and small they do have electrical lighting and outlets for heaters during the winter months. They do tend to get hot during the summer months. Now the rear garten of the club is filled with these small log cabin style rooms. This was originally done years prior to this at Oase FKK Sauna Club in Burgholzhausen near Frankfurt. You'll note the 4 large wooden cabins in the rear garten area of Oase FKK Sauna Club facility.

Parking has also be expanded at Planet Happy Garden Sauna Club. The club has added parking spaces directly in front of the club. Paved, complete with cement bumpers and striped spaces this welcome addition helps as the existing parking seemed to always fill quickly.

Amsterdam's Red Light District, Arnheim’s Red Light District and even the House Boats of Utrecht don't seem to draw the men of Holland like Germany does. This may be due to the recent change of currencies. Prior to the arrival of the Euro prices in Amsterdam’s Red Light District, Arheim’s Red Light District and the House Boats in Utrecht were cheaper. Thus it made sense to go to Holland for paid sex, prostitution. Paid sex and prostitution have suffered in Holland since the arrival of the Euro. In fact all of Europe where the Euro has taken effect seems to have suffered. The majority of people I've encountered don't care for the Euro and are hoping the Mark returns. The result is even more men from Holland now travel to Germany to visit clubs. Wildenrath Sauna Club, Golden Time Sauna Club, Tag und Nacht Sauna Club and Planet Happy Garden Sauna Club are filled with men from Holland as a result. On one hand this is great for the club and the women as more men mean more money. However for the locals this means crowds, lines and a lack of available women.

Food although good at Planet Happy Garden does not last and when served one needs to line up and get it while it lasts. The pit bar in the rear behind the indoor saunas is where the food is served. You'll note a line usually forms well before the food arrives. It's come to the point that Planet Happy Garden's male staff needs to serve the food as selfish customers often horde food and take huge portions. So if you're interested in eating during your visit to Planet Happy Garden Sauna Club then take not of the time and when the food arrives. Usually from 5pm to 7pm. Sometimes during the day lunch is served which can be Pizza etc. the same problems also exist.

During my recent visits to Planet Happy Garden FKK Sauna Club I've had mixed results. The best advice is to start with a 30 minute session or program as they say in Germany with condom (25 Euro). Get a feel for the woman and if things seem to be going well upgrade to the 50 Euro option (without condom oral). Plus you can always extend your session each additional 30 minutes for only 25 Euro. Entry to the club is still 50 Euros. Thank god the 65 Euro entry has not worked it's way north. As you might already know Atlantis FKK Sauna Club in Altenstadt just north of Frankfurt was the first to raise the entry fee from 50 to 60 and then 65 Euros. Oase FKK Sauna Club, World FKK Sauna Club in Polheim, Giessen and the Palace FKK Sauna Club (former name Paradise FKK Sauna Club) all followed in suite and raised prices. Atlantis FKK Sauna Club as you might know was closed by local authorities for numerous violations.

The bar at FKK Sauna Club Planet Happy Garden is one of the best in the business. Beer is also served and available both in the pit bar in the rear as well as up front in the main bar area. Just look for the self serve glass door fridges.
Juice, coffee, espresso and soft drinks to your hearts content are served at the main bar. The read lower bar is basically self serve however you may only find Soft drinks and beer there. Juice and coffee is always available up front.

Many of the women make a habit to take turns visiting the bar and serving drinks while men at and near the bar watch them squat or bend over to access glasses, ice etc. Eye contact is a popular way for the women to get your attention. It's common as you walk the gauntlet past the bar where the men and women are that a woman will touch you as you pass. From this extreme to the other there are women who sit in packs chatting and show no interest in the men. In fact over the years it's been common that some women will refuse men if they are not to their liking.

Another huge difference between Planet Happy Garden FKK Sauna Club and more typical original clubs like Bernd's FKK Sauna Club in Hennef Lichtenberg is the dress code. Totally nude women at Bernd's FKK Sauna Club and men only wearing towels, even some not even wearing that define the club as an authentic FKK Sauna Club. FKK Sauna Club Planet Happy Garden on the other hand the men are issued white robes, although not mandatory most men wear the robes but there are not rules that stop you from wearing just a towel. Towels are available at the front entry lounge in the same cabinet where you obtain your slippers. They don't mind if you help yourself either to the towels or a new robe.

Take care in how you dress when you arrive at this club and plan on entering. I've been with a friend who was not permitted to enter due to the way he dressed. He was wearing a knit skin cap and the only one from our group of 5 that was turned away. At first we thought it may be due to him being Asian but in a future visit he was permitted entry without a problem by the same woman. FKK Sauna Club Planet Happy Garden is not the only club where this sort of thing happens either. I suggest you don't force the issue as when push comes to shove you still won't get in and most likely if the security thugs get involved things will get worse.

All in all this is one of my favorite clubs but also a club that has some problems. The smoke is a huge problem and spending time at the main bar will be a work out for your lungs. Food is more of a race rather then a relaxed event. Guys will even try and cut into the line to avoid being last and out of luck. Women being dressed rather then totally nude means some surprises when you get to the room. Since women sit in groups in the bar, lounge area sometimes it's more difficult to approach them. After 3pm the place usually begins to get crowded and eventually this means not rooms and sometimes no girls. Since the club pricing is based on the additional 30 minutes are 25 Euro each many men take advantage and book the girls for hours on end. When you have 100 guys and 30 women this sort of thing can cause problems.

Best advice is to arrive early or when they open, the women are fresh and more arrive as the day continues. Approach the women and make some small talk to get an idea of how they respond. Remember you don't have to go to the room.

Taking a tour with the very popular FKKTOUR Sauna club tours FKKTOUR/tour.htm is a great idea as you'll meet other US or English speaking guests. It's always more fun to visit the club with friends or others. The other benefit is that the info one gets from a group of guys means that only one guy has the bad party. The best women will quickly become apparent to everyone in the group. All over the web you'll note the posts about how difficult it is to find this club as well as many others. Wildenrath FKK Sauna Club is another one of those clubs that can be difficult to find. Even a seasoned visitor as myself going on the FKKTOUR Sauna Club tours make sense as my hotel and transportation are all taken care of for me at a reasonable rate. I always have friends to spend time with during my visit and have access to a wealth of info from experienced German and US guides who know the management personally.

If you plan on visiting the club yourself, renting a car is your best bet. Public transportation is an option but has it's pitfalls. Trains, subways and buses take time to figure out which ones to take plus they cease to operate late in the evening which might leave you stranded at a club. This means more expensive transportation like a taxi will come into play. If you opt for a rental car, allow plenty of extra time to find these places as well as getting lost. Buy the best maps and make sure you have plenty of fuel. Remember you'll be departing the club at night when it's dark and easier to get lost. Gas is two to three times the cost as the US. Also when booking your rental car take note that some rates do not include the high airport fees and taxes that can up the total another 20 percent.

Check out the huge FKK Sauna List
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Hi Guys

Just found this board so I'll upload an earlier report.

Just been to Germany for the Weekend and visited Pegasus on Friday 27th August and PHG on Saturday 28th August. You can read the reports in the relevant sections.

Before going to Germany I read some of the reports here and on some of the German boards and they all raved about PHG. I’d also read that it could be a bit of a nightmare trying to find the place. The easiest way I found was to take the train from Dusseldorf to Kempen (€15 return), which leaves at 09 minutes past the hour and takes about 40 minutes and then take a 5 minute taxi (€9 each way) to the club. The return train from Kempen to Dusseldorf leaves at 13 minutes past the hour. After getting in the taxi I thought I’d be discreet and ask the driver to take me to Toenisvorst, which is the address on the PHG website. He then asked me if I wanted to go to Vorst, Toenis 1 or Toenis 2!!! Discression then went out of the window and I asked if he knew Planet Happy Garden, which he did. Moral of the story – don’t be discreet, just ask for the club. By the way, the locals all call it Happy Garden, rather than Planet Happy Garden.

I arrived at the club at about 2pm and was given the once over by the barmaid (very attractive brunette with big blue eyes) and then allowed to enter the club. I explained that I hadn’t visited the club before and she explained the prices and showed me around.

After changing I took a walk around the club and there were about 20 women present all sat in the bar area. After taking a sauna and relaxing a bit I decided it was time for the first session. After looking around the bar I chose a Thai girl called Dik (sp?) who is about 5’ 5” tall, very slim with B cup breasts, a bit of small talk and then we retreated to the room. A pretty decent session with BBBJ and French kissing, she didn’t offer any extras and I didn’t ask for any – cost €50.

Another sauna and a bit of time to relax and then I chose Michelle. She comes from Holland but lives in Dortmund. She has shoulder length brown hair and B/C cup breasts. When we got to the room she asked me if I wanted BJ or BBBJ, 30 mins or an hour and if I wanted FT. I said BBBJ and we’d just see how things went with the time and extras. I said BBBJ and we’d just see how things went with the time and extras. Michelle is really into giving and receiving oral, as I am, and we had a great session with FT. The session lasted about 45 mins (neither of us had a watch on) and we relaxed for the next 15 mins to make up the hour. She asked if I’d been to any other clubs and I told her that I’d been to FKK Oase and she seemed really shocked that they charged €50 for extras instead of the €25 in PHG. Cost of the session €100 (€75 for 1 hour + €25 for FT).

After finishing with Michelle I was pretty much done for, so I had a couple of beers, waited for the food to appear and after eating got a taxi back to the station.

I can't remember if I read it on this board or another one, but someone wrote that they don't let everyone into the club. As I was leaving someone was trying to get in and the barmaid was trying to fob him off by telling him it was very busy and he'd have to wait until a few people left. He was asking how long that would be and the barmaid, trying to give him a hint, told him it could be 3-4 hours. The guy was probably in his mid-late 40's dressed fairly well and wasn't black or Turkish, so presumably it wasn't a racism problem, maybe he'd just caused a bit of trouble on his last visit. I don't know if it is the barmaid who makes the decision as to who to let inot the club, or if she gets the nod from security who are hidden away behind the scenes.

PHG is definitely worth a visit if you’re in the Dusseldorf/Cologne area, even though it can be a bit of a pain to get to.
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Update

It appears that the competition in the area has affected "the Garden". Many women have jumped ship to work at the competition Golden Time. Where it is said the women are offered lower costs. While other old timers made it clear they had no intentions of changing clubs. In fact some of these women were passing on rumors that GT was not as clean and had some drug related problems. This seemed to be more out of jealousy and fear rather then reality as if you've personally been to GT it's obvious the place is spotless. Drug wise it's hard to know what is going on at any club and no club is above such problems. I would be willing to bet this just an ugly rumor in a feeble attempt to scare other women from even thinking about jumping ship.

The expanded parking area out front only makes it more obvious that things are slower then usual. Ads are now in place in local papers and "Happy Weekend" which is something the club has not needed to do for many years. A new ladies lounge has been added upstairs above the bar. You can see it from the garden as you exit the patio doors near the saunas. The single room that was in the bar area has been gutted in favor of expanding the bar area. Now a wide beam ceiling support houses several flat panel monitors which as usual displays the fashion channel. While this expansion helps relieve the traffic problems of too many guests in the bar area it seems to have come too late. One really stupid addition are these potted plants that sit around the huge monitor laden pillar. They serve little more purpose then looking nice while they block your view when seated.

The majority of guests still seem to be Dutch men from over the border. Asking several women they favor the Dutch men over the German. Not the first time I've heard this, it's a common complaint at all the clubs. The plastic woman at the entrance to the bar has been removed. Probably due to the loss of paint on her brests by those who cop a feel as they pass by. 2 fancy newer coffee machines have been installed, one at the main bar and one at the rear self serve bar.

Competition is good and while it should shake things up a bit it will probably bring in new talent and get the girls thinking about the concept of keeping customers happy.

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