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Mr21 (Mr21)
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Username: Mr21
Post Number: 7
Registered: 4-2003
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Votes: 57 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 9:06 pm: |      |
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Username: Nevada
Post Number: 82
Registered: 1-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 3:11 pm: | |
Brothels Win Right to Advertise
Federal judge, Nevada ACLU lift ban
July 12 – In a First Amendment victory for the Nevada brothel industry, the Nevada ACLU and a Federal judge declared a long-standing state law banning brothel advertising to be unconstitutional.
Before the new ruling, brothels could not advertise in counties that did not allow prostitution. They could only appear in the Yellow Pages under Nightclubs, or promote the bar aspect of the business on taxi cabs. Violations would mean fines or jail time.
The Shady Lady even ran afoul of the interpretations of the anti-advertising law when they tried to advertise for support positions, such as Cook, in publications such as City Life, a publication out of Las Vegas.
Now, major players in the brothel industry can devote resources to advertising budgets. We may even see TV spots for the Moonlite Bunny Ranch appearing soon. In the meantime, the defendants in the case, Clark County and the State of Nevada, are allowed to appeal the decision.
The name of the case is Coyote Publishing et. al. v. Heller.
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INTEL
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Username: Intel
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2003
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 11:57 am: | |
Helpful Hints for the First-Time Brother Goer
Here’s some more advice for all you newbies. This will help keep you out of trouble and ensure that your first visit will not be your last.
Visit a house that sells time, not activities
The problem with houses that sell activities is that the ladies may suggest a party with a fully loaded menu as a way to justify a higher price. The problem here is that once you lose your load, it’s all over, regardless if you had managed to make it all the way to dessert or couldn’t even get past the appetizer.
(But I’ve only been here for 15 minutes! But I was promised two more positions, a breast massage, and a lingerie show!) Too bad, so sad. Get dressed and get out.
As a newbie, you’re better off visiting houses that charge according to time, at least until you're more confident with your negotiating skills. That way, you’ll have a better chance of getting what you paid for and your session will be much more relaxed. The Shady Lady near Beatty, and Donna’s Ranch in Wells are places where you can do this.
NEVER take the “complimentary limousine” or the taxi
Some brothel owners will graciously offer to drive you to their establishments in a “complimentary” limousine. Unfortunately, it’s never complimentary. Someone has to pay for it, and guess what! That someone is you!
Here’s how: If you take the limousine, the house in turn takes an additional 30% from the cost of your party to pay the driver (in addition to any tips you give the driver yourself). That means that the house now gets 80% of the fee you negotiate with the lady. Do you think the lady will be happy to receive only 20% of the cost of the party, from which she must then pay her expenses and taxes? No, she will not.
Therefore, she will inflate the cost of the party to make up for the loss of revenue. This will make negotiations even more difficult for both of you and can sour the overall mood.
The same goes for taxis. The driver gets a cut of the lady’s fee, which you’ll also have to make up for. So, if you need transportation to a brothel and can’t drive your own car, then rent one. This is probably the biggest money-saving tip we can offer.
Decide how much you want to spend, and then stick to it
Before you go in, decide what your price is and stick to it. Take exactly that amount with you and nothing more. Leaving your extra cash and credit cards in the car will make it easier for you to avoid temptation. Be prepared to settle for less time or fewer activities if the lady won’t meet your price. Don’t allow yourself to be talked into paying more if you’re not prepared to pay it.
Don’t fall for a sales pitch
Avoid the “saleslady” type at all costs. She’ll lay a platinum price on you and try to talk you into accepting it. She’ll try to justify it by claiming that she’s the best, she’s worth it, and she’ll do things the other ladies won’t. She’ll compliment you on your good looks, your bulging muscles, and your enormous manhood, even if you possess none of the above.
The truth is that she’s desperate, and the reason why is because she’s not good at what she does and is not bringing in the money. Or, she’s pegged you as a sucker and is trying to play you. In any case, take it as a sign and walk. Remember: the best ladies don’t need to brag – they let their service do the talking.
Don’t be afraid to walk if you can’t get your price
Have you ever shopped for a car? Then you have an idea of what brothel negotiations are often like. Don’t worry about hurting anyone’s feelings if you have to walk. Business is business. These ladies are like most sales people. They’re prepared to walk a lot of guys before one finally agrees to their price.
Tell the lady up front what you expect, and get her to do so in return
Once in a while, you’ll find a lady who’ll go the extra mile for you, but don’t count on that. If you want something other than the standard in-and-out, you must ask for it before the money changes hands. Don’t assume anything. Reading the lady a laundry list of your wants will take away some of the spontaneity of sex, but it may save you grief later on. Also, this allows the lady to let you know in advance what her boundaries are.
Don’t book long parties
Stick to the shorter parties and save yourself a lot of money. If you can’t get off in 30 minutes, then you can negotiate for more time. But don’t buy it until you need it.
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Old timer
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Username: Tony
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Registered: 1-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 3:24 pm: | |
Not much has changed over the years but what stands out the most is that business is way down to what it once was. Sure some of the brothel owners will swear that this is not so but the truth shines thru most when you talk to a few of the working girls. The average house minimum is $150 and service for that price is available at almost all the brothels. The problem from my view is that there are far too many other alternatives to legal sex in Nevada. Since paid sex is legal in Nevada one would think that it would be a better deal then illegal options or traveling elsewhere (our of the US) for sex. Service workers (working women of Nevada) vary from very below average to average with a rare 10. When it comes to down to buying a basic "half and half or oral and sex combo" prices range from $100 to $2000. One would think that attractiveness of the worker is figured into the price however this is not always true. Lets just say that $200 is the average price that will pretty much get you 30-60 minutes half and half at all the brothels.
Porn stars have all but left the Nevada paid sex scene from my last visit a week ago. It's difficult enough to find men to cough up $200 so who would pay the $1000+ prices they demand? From visiting over 28 brothels in a weeks time I could not find even one porn star.
Asians have now entered the competition and from what I can tell they understand the customer and business far better then the veteran brothels and ranches. Dollar for dollar I found better service, no games and better prices at the new Asian competition.
More and more brothels are closing or coming up for sale. Cottentail for example is up for sale again on Ebay for a mere 275k. It was taken over not too long ago and failed shortly there after again by someone who really should not be in the business. Playmates which is only a stones throw from Wildcats just south of Mina has been said open soon, well after hearing this for over a year, it's stll not open. A second brothel close to the California border (just north east of Bishop) sounds like a good idea. They just need to make it worth the drive by offering decent looking women and fair prices. $200 is not fair nor are women over 30 years of age. I don't care what anyone thinks, this is suppose to be legal paid sex, not a place for women that can't get dates even from drunks at a bar. It is possible as there were two under 25 year old very attractive women at the Chicken Ranch who offered without haggling $200, 30 minute full service. Although I did say $200 was no great deal, it shows that you can find attractive women at low prices. Im sure once they catch on to the volume concept that perhaps $100 for 30 minutes might catch on again. Remember the women only take 50% at most brothels, so your $100 is really only $50 to them. Hey, that's $50 for 1/2 an hour of unskilled work. No college degree, no special equipment needed. Is there something wrong with $50 for 30 minutes? I saw far too many women wishing or dreaming of $500 one hour parties. Many hope that one of these suckers will at least show up once a week. You know 10 customers making them $50 for 30 minutes is 5 hours of work at $100 per hour and $500 total. That can be made in one day. World wide this seems to be a reasonable rate to earn, im not talking third world countries either. Yet some Nevada women think that $500 an hour is fair.
I still think that part of the reason for high rates $500+ is due to some of the women living a fantasy and they are so dam good that men will flock to them for that rate. I spent hours at some houses and I sat there alone, what happened to the flocks. Well yes the women flocked to me to do the hard sales but as far as other customers they just did not exist. Perhaps they come in while im in bed dreaming of $50 sex in other countries?
Desperation is still a factor and often you find women working who are at then end of a rope. What this seemed to mean is they want you as a single trick to bail them out. $2000 for a 1 hour party, oh that's to pay my house payment, I have 6 kids too. Are they nuts or something, no wonder the husband bailed. Then there's the womem who hates men and is only doing this cause she likes the idea of making men pay them. I highly doubt Nevada is the place to find the working gal who really enjoys sex. Thus the whole concept of GFE in Nevada is just a marketing scam. So remember in Nevada "GFE" means Greedy Female Entity". Kissing... well does that mean a peck or french? If a girl won't kiss you like a girl friend then please don't use the term. I always chuckle when I read some of the brothel web pages where girls say "GFE" and then email me about this. Close to GFE is NOT GFE, I guess there will always be those guys who have not had authentic GFE sex and are tricked into thinking they are getting something they aren't.
The one thing that stands out about the women that do want to make money is that they are fair about prices and once you do agree on a rate and service they come thru with what they promise. This is another sore spot about Nevada car salesmen tactics, over charging and cheating customers out of services. Remember booking one hour with a girl does not always mean one hour of sex. It can and almost always means "till you cum" and if that happens in 10 minutes then you are out of luck as the best you can then hope for is to sit with her for the remainder of time with contact. This my friend is what you often find in Nevada. So make it clear how many times you can cum before you settle on time. Oh and "act" if you use that term to book a party it usually comes with a time limit and if you don't clearly agree on a time it most often it 15-20 minutes. Thus if you agree on half and half, it might only be for 15 minutes, whether you finish or not. Remember this is not about making you a repeat customer or a satisfied one as with this sort of business practice who is coming back. Having over 25 years of Nevada experience this is still true today. So how can a brothel owner or brothel worker expect to build a customer base? How many customers out of the US population are willing to shell out $500+ for an hour? Nevada get a clue, doctors and lawyers your girls are not but $50 for 30 minutes is a f__cking lot.
Finally if you're willing to spend the time and effort driving for hours on end there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Decent service can be found even at the higher priced brothels close to the larger cities. Just remember to clearly state, time and services before closing a deal and handing over your hard earned money. By all means always be prepared to walk a girl and don't act like you ain't had none for years. Remember that they need your money more then you do, otherwise you would not be there.
Another guy still hoping after all these years that Nevada will change it's tune and bring customers back with fair pricing and services... |
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Username: Nevada
Post Number: 73
Registered: 1-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 10:49 am: | |
Heidi Fleiss Stud Farm
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UPDATE ON THE STUD FARM OCTOBER 2006
The location where THE STUD FARM will be constructed is an hour drive from Las Vegas in Nye County. The FBI had an ongoing investigation involving a local brothel owner named Joe Richards and politicians in the community.
Heidi Fleiss was not involved in or associated with the alleged illegal activities. Although, as a result THE STUD FARM is a few months behind. Heidi Fleiss is preparing to submit the application for a brothel license. There cannot be any formal opening date until the county commissioners and the sheriff make a ruling.
Heidi claims to meet all qualifications.
These are the two possibilities.
1. If approved we will start construction on a sophisticated contemporary design by Grupposenza. The design has been published in a European Architectural magazine called PLAN. Although construction would not be completed, they may open in four months.
2. If the application is denied, depending on what grounds, they'll address the issue and satisfy all concerns so everyone is comfortable.
They'll post when the application is turned in. If you support this project they need you to attend the proceedings. There will be many people against the project attending. It is imperative that those in support of the project attend. Those who oppose an issue tend to be more vocal and attend proceedings, but it is important that those who support this project attend and are vocal. |
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