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Rotlicht

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Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2000 - 12:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I went to the Philippines several times between 96 and 99. Haven't been there since nearly one year so I can't tell you the latest stuff, but nevertheless I think I can give some helpful advises.

Angeles City: Has been growing between 96 and 99. Yes it has become also more commercial. By far the first choice for finding girls in the Philippines. Only place that can be compared with the "famous sights" in Thailand.

"Clark Base" is nice to escape the 24 hour "party" of the strip, the hotels and locations have really international standard. Outside the Base you should get a room for about 1000P. The bar fines are around 1000P too. Tips are not necessarily expected but always welcome. Don't talk about prices in and how "cheap" this place is in public. (Anyway it isn't that cheap it seems to be in the beginning)

After all I wouldn't recommend to stay there longer then one week. In my opinion you haven't got an escape. There isn't too much around. When you travel use only aircon buses or if you are willed to spend 5 times more money a cap. Use a motorbike only on routes without much traffic, otherwise you'll eat much dust. (Believe me I experienced it when I went from Angeles to Subic). When I stay too long on the stip I am getting decadent. Life is everyday the same. Get up in the afternoon, go to Kokomos or Magaritha Station for having Lunch, two or three rounds by motorbike. Maybe a trip to Clark Field or to Downtown Angeles. Just waiting for the night, what means alcohol and girls. By the way there is a drug called "shabou" is pretty popular in the Phils., maybe it will be offered to you by any girls. There are two reasons to reject. The Philippine law and the health damage it causes, it is similar to Crack but it doesn't contain cocaine, only amphetamine.

Now to the most important: The Girls. What I saw, Prostitution in Asia (Thailand and Philippines) and in Europe isn't the same. The business in Europe is very straight. Money for Sex and you'll part. In Asia many girls are not professional. I don't want to analyze if its a reason of poverty or mentality, may the experts do that. Even the girls I consider as pro are still far behind the Europeans, they are much more naiv. Don't expect special services like anal intercourse or bondage, usually you won't get. Falling "in love" is on both sides not uncommon. Keep always in your mind where you are, who you are and what you are doing there, especially when you consider STD´s and AIDS. When you stay longer try to keep contact to people outside the strip, get a house don't stay in hotel and look for other hobbies then to just "•••• around".

After this sentences of warning: The girls are great. You´ll get beauties there you never expected to get again in you whole live. Young, cute and natural. You can´t get this type of girls anywhere in the western world. Sometimes I think it isn't just sex that attract people to travel there, it is the whole way of live. You feel rich and handsome, you learn a little bit how the "upper 10.000" must feel everyday.

Of course you can follow the "20 girls, 20 nights" strategy, when you are there, to spend 5000 P for one night shouldn't be a problem in that case (I think no further information is necessary). If you start it quieter you'll find a lot of "second row" girls, who really do everything for you, if you treat them a little bit nice. They love to accompany you throughout the country, they can be better than every traveling guide. My suggestion for a 4 weeks trip stay for example two weeks in Angeles. In the first week just try "to get what you can", in the second and if necessary third week look for a "girlfriend" and take her to the beach of choice.

MANILA: Mainila was pretty dead, before 92 (the year Alfredo Lim became mayor of Manila). The Red Light District around M.H. del Pilar and Mabini Street must have been one of the biggest in Asia. Shortly after he came to power all the clubs had to close. In Makati, Quezon, and Pasy are still a lot of places where you can find girls, but it isn't the same it used to be. One positive aspect, the "tourist belt" around Pilar and Mabini Street isn't as criminal as before. Nevertheless Metro Manila is quite dangerous, even it is a very interesting city. Pretty dirty also, a friend of mine calls it always "Lagos of the East". Around the former Red Light District are still some nice bars and pubs. In direction to the airport you'll find some nice restaurants and pubs WITHOUT prostitution. Around U.N. Avenue there are still a hand full of bars. You'll recognize them by the line "unescorted ladies and minors are not allowed" at the entrance. Next to Iseya hotel there is a bar called "High Fields", I always found very nice girls there.

CEBU: There must also be a lot around Mactaan Island. I have never been there (I regret). In the City of Cebu there are some places on the former Mango Avenue (The main street of Uptown Cebu) and in Downtown Cebu around the "Metro Gaisano" Shopping Mall. For the girls you have to pay around 2000 P. Some of them are very beautiful. I recommend the bars Uptown. They have partwise foreign management and are more easy going then the owns downtown mostly visited by Filipinos. In the street I was also asked if I'd like to get a girl. I tried it, my experiences weren't bad. You can get a girl for about 800 P, but I consider the whole story is dangerous and the girls are not that beautiful then inside the bars. It is my experience, I heard different opinions. What I would use next time: They are many girls in cebu chatting via IRC in Internet Caffees. Try the chatroom " #cebu " (from any county in the world, just need IRC client Software). Go to a Internet Caffee (about 30 P for one hour) and start chatting, tell me what happened.

SUBIC: Subic was described to me as second Angeles. I was disappointed. The girls are a little cheaper, but by far not as many and as beautiful then in Angeles. Nevertheless Subic is nice. It must be great for diving. Fomrer Subic Base is very nice and in my opinion even bigger then Clark Base. It is worth a visit.
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Jbones

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You are making a mistake.Pangasinan is a PROVINCE north of both Manila and Angeles,near to the Lingayan Gulf.Good for fishing,relaxing etc., but woefully short of any Tourist infrastructure.

Dagupan is probably the biggest town in the province,but is used just as a transport hub.Only Filipino Bars and Karaokes around for entertainment.

Nearby Baguio is the summer capital of the Philippines.Its called The City Of The Pines,and is much cooler than Manila,and less humid.It boasts a number of Country Clubs and Golf Clubs,the best being probably Camp John Hay.

Offshore,in the Gulf,lies The Hundred Islands.A large number of volcanic atolls,mostly uninhabited.Fishing,boat trips with your Honey-Ko,picnics on the islands,swimming etc.,can make a nice get-away-from-it-all holiday.

Plenty of simple accomodation available,mostly on the mainland,but some on the Islands.

Childrens Island,is one of the prettiest of the islands.A Nipa Hut can be rented nightly,(twin beds,kerosene lamp,toilet,drum of water),bring your own food,for around 700 pesos a night.Phome no. of the resident manager is 551 2505.

If you mean Pagsanjan,THIS is where the movie,Apocolypse Now was made,and others including Born On The 4th July.

The waterfalls are terrific,but the boatmen are really shitty,and aggressive.The town,70 miles south west of Manila,is supposed to be dependent upon tourism,but they havent got a clue.Take a Filipino m/f companion,to get the best prices,if you really must go.

Buses from Manila service both Pagsanjan and Pangasinan, every hour,Philippine Rabbit & Five Star.Journey takes six hours,or break your journey in Angeles en route,and catch the connection from Dau (four hours).In Manila,the destination is Alaminos,get off at your choice,Dagupan,San Carlos or even go up to San Fernando and Bauang in La Union.(A much better destination,tourist friendly,girlie bars,nice Hotels w/ pools)

For Pagsanjan,BLTB and JAM operate to Santa Cruz,catch a local jeepney for the last few kms.Weekends are packed out with local tourists and hustlers.Boatmen expect a tip of around 1000 pesos,and you will get wet.Rapids and water levels are highest in August and September,rainy season.Go early to avoid crowds.

Any of the many hotels in Pagsanjan will arrange a boat trip and swim for you,at a price PLUS the big tip.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 7:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IP   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BILL'S TRAVEL TIPS
1.) Always carry small change in Pesos, Coins and 10, 20 and 50 notes. That saves you the annoyance from the very common reply, "sorry
no change".

2.) Ask someone about taxi or jeepney, tricycle fares BEFORE you get in. Pay and walk away. NEVER ask "How much?" because the price goes up. A MOVING Taxi is too busy working so it's a better, more honest taxi and a parked taxi is waiting for victim. Tip the taxi driver P10 to P20 to reward him for not hassling you. Good Karma always comes
back to you.

3. ) Never change money on the street nor inside a restaurant. You will ALWAYS lose and usually almost half your money. These money change scam artists are VERY good and show that the hand is always quicker than the eye.

4. ) Never gamble with Filipinos not pool, cards, chess or any game for money and not even for drinks. It's safer not to gamble. It's one
example in life where when you win you lose and when you lose you lose.

5. ) Never raise your voice at a Filipino away from your own neighborhood. Never call a Filipino "STUPID". They are very sensitive
about it. If you do get angry and make the mistake. Please leave the place as soon as possible .Go Away Fast because you are in more
DANGER than you realize. Filipinos do not like to fight and "fair fights" are not custom, "fight to kill" is.

6. ) Forget about the 2 words "WHY" and "SHOULD" or you get constant headache trying to understand why things happen like they do in places
outside your own country, especially the Philippines. Acceptance is the preferable attitude. There are too many things for you to
question, so it's better for you not to start. So just relax and enjoy the positive aspects of your surrroundings with a sense of humor.

7. ) Expect everything to be late and slow. Life stops at LUNCH. Schedules change and the weather is unpredictable. Telephones,electricity, and water - sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

8. Never accept drinks, candy, or fruit from strangers, especially young women, in Manila. In the past few years a few of our guests have
been drugged using the above methods after being met in Rizal Park, shopping malls, the open markets and even on the bus. We have never
heard about this happening in other parts of the Philippines.

9.) Always wear a cloth type money belt which is worn around your waist under your clothes instead of those leather or vinyl pouch waist bags with several zippered pockets because psychologically they appear as you are advertising your valuables. It may seem a bit awkward to reach under the edge of your pants to get your money or travelers checks at a bank but it's MUCH SAFER. Even when you drink or otherwise indulge too much your money is much safer near your - - - -

10.) Don't WORRY, BE HAPPY :-)

We have these posted on the wall of our small hotel / hostel near the Manila airports but you could apply them them to many other undeveloped countries as well.

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I know what you mean Bill. The first chance they see to rip you off. You might as well kiss your money goodbye. I had it happen to me once. Mainly, because I got stupid and forgot about it. Since I was last in the Philippines(CEBU) in 92. I returned back in 2000, then it happened. Good thing it was only about $5-15USD, as I had budgeted around 1500USD. Was visiting family and the bargirls. So I wasnt too badly hurt by it.
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How does the sex compare to that of other countries in the world? Ive been to Mexico, the hotels are not the cleanest, there don't appear to be any mandatory health checks. What's the average cost of short time and long time? Most guys that go tho Philippines seem to be wife shopping but what about guys that just want lots of variety?
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Welcome to the S.E. Asia Scene

Even though the Filipina bargirls are prostitutes somehow they are different than the "working" girls in all the other countries in S.E. Asia. Filipinas maintain more rights to refuse going with guys if they really feel strongly against them whereas the girls in Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia do what they're told by their Mamasans. I guess Filipinas being Catholics and very westernized make them like that and an illusion of "romance" with them often makes the sex with them better.

When you book your tour and are ready to have the BEST TIME OF YOUR LIFE come horny, drink lots of fluids and eat juicy fruits to enhance your ability to enjoy many orgasms, possibly more than you've ever had or dreamed you were capable of having. Don't stop until you have almost a "dry" orgasm. At least 2 chicks a day makes it worth going but three is better, morning, noon and night. Once you have run "dry" then take a break and wait 12 to 18 hours taking those small liquid vitamin drinks etc until you start feeling the "morse code" sensations again in your balls. Then GO FOR IT AGAIN. There's plenty of time to sleep and rest when you get home to your old life which will never be quite the same again after experiencing such intense pleasure and passion.

I've been back in the States for almost 4 months and I'm anxious to get back to the Philippines as you can tell. :-)

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