Post Number: 1184
Votes: 8 (Vote!)
|Posted on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 10:17 pm: || |
"Because to do this, you gotta be crazy!"
During which your intrepid explorers endeavor to visit as many brothels as possible within 36 hours
My original plans for Memorial Day weekend had fallen through, so when Louis contacted me to suggest we make a Nevada brothel run, I leapt at the opportunity to hang out for the weekend, see some of Mother Nature's finest handiwork, and, who knows, maybe even get laid once or twice.
However, there was an obstacle: Louis absolutely, positively had to be back in Los Angeles by noon on Sunday. This left us with only Friday night and all of Saturday to cover as much ground as possible. A difficult proposition, yes, but we wouldn't be Your Intrepid Explorers if we weren't up to the challenge.
So, we took possession of our rental car at 8:30 PM on Friday evening, and plunged deep into holiday traffic toward the state line and whatever adventures awaited us beyond it.
The Chicken Ranch, Pahrump
Sheri's Ranch, Pahrump
Angel's Ladies, Beatty
After making several diversions to avoid the heavy traffic northbound on I-15, we arrived at the Chicken Ranch shortly after 1:00 AM. The place looked dead for a holiday weekend. In fact, we were the only customers at that hour. Only five ladies made our lineup, none of whom struck either of us as particularly appealing. I eventually selected JADE, a tall, slender, dark-haired gal whom Louis and I agreed was the class of that particular lineup. Louis declined a tour and asked to wait in the bar next door, instead.
"Have you been here before?" Jade asked me as I followed her to her room.
"Yes, a couple of years ago," I replied.
This, gentle readers, was a lie. I had never been there before, but I also didn't want the Menu Treatment, a fate that befalls many a Pahrump brothel rookie, especially those of Asian or Middle Eastern descent. Put simply, the Menu Treatment consists of the lady handing you a printed menu listing the house specialties. Next to each specialty is a hand-written price, which will be, to put it kindly, outrageous. I've heard tell of ladies trying to charge two grand for straight sex and $850 for a blow job in this manner.
So, I offered Jade $150 for a basic half-and-half. Jade stood fast for $200, which she claimed was the new house minimum. I declined, thanked her for her time, and had her escort me back to the parlor. The Madame appeared shortly thereafter, confirmed Jade's report that the house minimum was indeed now $200, and let me out. I met Louis in the bar, where we each had a small glass of soda, and then we left for Sheri's Ranch.
I'd never been to Sheri's before, either, but from reading previous accounts, I could see that the owners had enlarged the parlor; added a sports bar off to the left; installed black hard wood floors; and scattered opulent couches, chairs, coffee tables, and marble statues throughout.
Louis and I took a seat across from one of the coffee tables, upon which stood a conspicuous sign: "Absolutely No Refunds." A bad omen, and a not-so-ideal choice of location. It's kind of off-putting for a prospective client to have to see that sign even before he sees the ladies. That sign is better suited for inside a lady's room.
The very friendly Madame, an older, well-dressed blonde woman, called for a lineup, and minutes later, ten ladies entered from opposite sides. Louis selected a slender, tanned brunette, while I chose DALLAS, a trim blonde dressed in black lingerie and rimless spectacles. As we made the long walk down the corridor from the parlor to her room, Dallas showed me some of the new amenities, such as two jacuzzi rooms and a torture chamber. She also explained others that were in the works, like an 18-hole golf course, a 50-room bed-and-breakfast establishment, a gym for the ladies, and an on-site makeup and hair expert.
As I listened to her, I wondered why the owners would sink so much money into improvements that wouldn't directly affect the brothel clientele, particularly when business was down for all the brothels. I mean, who goes to a brothel to play golf or get a facial and a hot pack? Maybe the owners are preparing for the perhaps not-too-distant day when the "moral and righteous" citizens of Pahrump finally decide Enough Is Enough, and rise up to shut the place down for good, as they attempted to do in 2000. The owners could then convert the place into an exclusive resort for Ma and Pa Kettle down from Iowa to visit and tell all their friends back home that they slept in a notorious ex-brothel.
We finally reached Dallas's room. She curled up against her headboard and began the negotiation. "Do you have any fantasies?" she asked.
"No, I'm pretty basic when it comes to sex," I replied.
"One cum or two?" she countered.
I hate that question. More on that later. "One," I replied.
Dallas suggested an involved, multi-activity party that would cost me $800. "That all sounds very nice, but that's a bit out of my price range," I admitted.
"Well, how much were you expecting to spend?" she asked. When I told her, Dallas paused, and then said, "For that, I can give you a hand job."
Now, if I wanted to spend $150 for a hand job, I'd rent a porn video for three bucks, put the other $147 in the bank, and give myself a hand job. I certainly wouldn't fight traffic to drive all the way out to a brothel.
Dallas then offered a blow job for $200. I declined, and thanked Dallas politely for her time. "No problem, Darlin', that's what we're here for," she said, not unpleasantly.
She escorted me back to the parlor, where Louis was waiting. Turns out that his selection also trotted out the $800 party as an opener, "graciously" discounted it to $600, and then offered to introduce him to other ladies that would accommodate him for the price he was prepared to pay. No sale.
We signaled to the Madame that we were ready to leave. She buzzed us out, told us to drive carefully, and wished us a pleasant evening. Louis made a point of telling her that she was the nicest Madame he had ever met in all his visits to Sheri's.
Now, back to the infamous "one cum or two" question. Would you enjoy yourself when you have this imposed line of demarcation on your mind? I sure wouldn't.
Let's say I had a momentary lapse of judgement and actually committed to that high-dollar party Dallas suggested. Now, suppose further that I shot my wad somewhere between the appetizer and the first course. Do you think Dallas would say, "Don't worry about that, Darlin,' you also paid for A, B, and C, so I'm going to see to it that you get them?" No, she sure wouldn't. All she would see to it that I get is dressed and out of there ASAP.
This reminds me of one of the many things I like about pursuing the hobby in the German FKK clubs. There, whatever happens in the room, happens. No paint-by-the-numbers stuff to kill the mood. If you get a little too excited and finish early, you can afford to book the lady again after you've had time to relax. You're not going to be hustled out of there and left to regret your decision. Sure, Dallas was a nice-looking lady, and who knows, she may have been a lot of fun, but the price she wanted was 16 times the amount I'd pay in an FKK club. Was she 16 times more attractive than the ladies working in the FKKs, or would she have provided an experience that was 16 times better? The answer to both questions, gentle readers, is an emphatic "No."
Besides, I've learned the hard way that you often do not get what you pay for in Nevada. A more expensive party does not always mean a better time. In fact, the opposite is frequently true. Remember this the next time you're being pressured to spend top dollar in a Nevada brothel.
It was past 4:00 AM when we arrived at Angel's Ladies, just outside of Beatty along the I-95. Nothing much had changed since my last visit a few years prior, except for the presence of a large yellow sign affixed to the outside wall to the right of the front door explaining all the benefits awaiting customers, including an invitation to lunch or dinner should one choose to party at that time.
We rang the buzzer, and MIMI, a small, blonde woman dressed in a white bathrobe, soon opened the screen door and peeked her head out. "At this hour, you'll need to spend a minimum of $100. Is that a problem?" she asked. Louis and I told her it wasn't. Mimi let us in, and several minutes later, five ladies made the lineup, which was a couple of notches below what we had seen at Sheri's. I recognized a few from the Angel's web site, such as DIZYER and SHELLY, a tall red-head dressed in black lingerie and a patterned silk wrap over the hips. I had read a number of good reports about Shelly, so I opted for a tour.
Shelly led me to her room and had me sit on the edge of her bed. She then asked me what I wanted, and how much I was planning to spend. When I answered both queries, she countered with a very fair offer of both time and activities, with no "one cum or two" questions and no attempts to script the party. Now, we're getting somewhere!
I wanted to close the deal with Shelly, because I liked her personality and attitude, especially at 4:00 AM, but a sudden wave of exhaustion overtook me. All I wanted to do was sleep. Shelly told me she understood, and walked me back to the parlor, where Louis and Dizyer were waiting.
There, friendly Dizyer encouraged me to talk to her in her room as well, and I finally did so after politely declining, but I was too tired to be of any use to her. Mimi let us out, we apologized for calling at such a late hour, and then we headed back towards town to secure lodging at the Stagecoach Hotel and Casino, a slightly shabby establishment that was a notch or two below your typical Motel 6 in terms of quality. We had a quick meal in the hotel's coffee shop before retiring for a few hours' sleep.
Angel's Ladies, Beatty
Stardust Ranch, Ely
Donna's Ranch, Wells
Bella's Hacienda Ranch, Wells
CharDon's Club, Elko
Sue's Fantasy Ranch, Elko
Inez's D & D, Elko
Dovetail Ranch, Carlin
Donna's, Battle Mountain
The Pussycat Saloon, Winnemucca
My Place, Winnemucca
Cozy Corner, Winnemucca
Villa Joy, Winnemucca
We began the second day of our journey by returning to Angel's Ladies, arriving shortly after 10 AM, as I wanted to resume where I left off with Shelly. MIA, the Madame that day, let us in. She informed us that Shelly was busy, but asked if we wanted a lineup. We agreed, and minutes later, the same lineup hit the floor, with the addition of KATHRYN, an attractive blonde with a hint of a Southern accent, and Mimi, the hostess from a few hours prior. Louis had a slight attraction to Kathryn, but decided to decline, and I still wanted to wait for Shelly.
So, we sat on the couches and continued to wait. Louis situated himself across from the doorway leading into the kitchen, so he could see what was going on behind the scenes. Occasionally, some of the ladies came out to offer us something to drink, or to needle us gently to try to change our minds about partying. "You boys don't know what you're miss-sin'," Kathryn sang to us at one point as she walked through the parlor and into the kitchen.
Finally, some thirty minutes later, Shelly came out, dressed in the same ensemble. Once in her room, I asked if we could continue where we left off. She quickly agreed, did the obligatory DC, and then left to book the party.
She returned a few minutes later, put on the red light, undressed, and went to work, providing me with one of the best times I'd ever had in Nevada. Never once did I hear the words "you never paid for this" or "we never agreed on that." Never once did she push my hands away, or try to keep me at a distance. Never once did she give the impression that she was just going through the motions. Instead, what I got was a genuine, honest-to-goodness brothel experience from a very friendly lady who seems to enjoy seeing her clients walk away happy. Either that, or she's a very good actress.
No matter, because this, gentle readers, is what it's all about. Your intrepid explorers are not impressed with platinum-priced parties, marble statues, or sports bars. Your intrepid explorers are impressed with friendly, willing-to-please attitudes and fair prices. Indeed, it seems that Angel's Ladies has stopped trying to emulate the Chicken Ranch and Sheri's when it comes to setting prices, and has instead chosen to oblige customers other than the one-shot tourists and those with more money than brains. A wise move on their part, I must say.
Louis agrees. He feels that, overall, Angel's Ladies is the best house in the area. In the car, he told me that, even though he's never partied there, he always makes it a point to visit because the people are so nice.
Moving north on the I-95, we passed by the Shady Lady, known for its set pricing and smaller lineups. Maybe I'll visit someday. We continued through Tonopah, where we took pictures of Bobbie's Buckeye Bar, now closed, and then headed west on Hwy 6 towards Ely and the Stardust Ranch, arriving in the late afternoon. I later found out that the woman who owns the Stardust Ranch also owns the Big 4 brothel across the street. She has it all refurbished and ready to go, but in these tough economic times she can't afford to staff both places.
At the Stardust, there were three ladies on call: busty JASMINE, from St. Louis; and KIM and JENNY, both from Minnesota. Louis chose Jasmine, while I went on a tour with both Kim and Jenny. They explained the prices, which were set at $100 for 15 minutes, $200 for a half-hour, and $400 for one hour. A jacuzzi room was available for 45 minutes at $300. which included the lady, but no sex. After the tours, I stayed to chat at the bar with friendly Jenny while I waited for Louis to finish up with Jasmine (they had booked a 15-minute party).
Louis soon appeared, having had a decent time with Jasmine, and then we hit the trail again. Moving north along Hwy 93 towards the brothels along the I-80 corridor, we passed through the small town of Currie, which is for sale. Here's your chance to own an authentic piece of the Wild West.
We arrived in Wells around dinnertime, both very hungry. Fortunately, Donna's Ranch, our first stop, was serving a free Memorial Day barbecue. We sat at the bar along with a group of rodeo cowboys and received plates full of ribs, bread, coleslaw, and potato salad. As we ate, one of the barmaids gave us mini-calendars, pens, and business cards.
Once we finished eating, we asked for a lineup, which consisted of five ladies. Louis stayed put, but I took a tour with CHANTEL, a slim, petite blonde. Her prices were $150 for 30 minutes and $300 for one hour. I declined, and then Louis and I walked across the parking lot to Bella's Hacienda, where free food was also available, as well as a lineup of eight ladies. We both passed, but AMY, an older Oriental gal who did not appeal to me, wouldn't take "No" for an answer. I tried to get rid of her by telling her we'd try Donna's first and then come back, but she spotted the Donna's paraphernalia in my shirt pocket. Whoops! A slight faux pas on my part.
As both penance for my dishonesty and an obligation to gather information for you, gentle readers, I accepted the tour with Amy. She showed me the brothel's new wing and then took me to her room, where she explained her prices as follows: $120 for 15 minutes, $200 for a half-hour, $250 for 45 minutes, and $280 for one hour. No sale.
On to Elko, and a whirlwind tour of the four brothels currently open: CharDon's, four ladies available but no sale; Mona's, two ladies available but no sale; Sue's, two ladies available but no sale; and Inez's, with three ladies available, including attractive DIONE. I took a tour with her, but didn't feel a spark, so I declined. Time to hit the road again. The hour was growing late, and we had much more ground to cover.
Arriving in Battle Mountain at around 10 PM, we stopped in at the new and improved Donna's Battle Mountain Ranch, formerly the Calico Club, where four or five ladies were on staff (none caught our eye). One of the barmaids served us free soda in large glasses before joining forces with the Madame and another barmaid to remove a hostile lad from the premises, an activity which they all seemed to enjoy very much.
Next, Carlin and the new Dovetail Ranch, which is a sprawling log cabin located down the road and across the street from Sharon's. The bar staff there were also very friendly, serving us free soda and seeming very pleased about our visit. The Dovetail Ranch looks to be very popular with the locals, at least for socializing and not necessarily for bedroom sports. All the barstools were full, and there was much laughing, smoking, and drinking going on, but there was only one lady on call to entertain in private. Her name was COCO, and she did not appeal to me at all, but I took a tour with her anyway to see what the rest of the facilities were like and to get an idea of the prices. CoCo dimmed the lights, put on a Luther Vandross CD, and gave me her price list: $80 minimum, $100 for a half-and-half. When I asked her if she had a time limit, she replied that she'd remove the condom and jerk me off if I appeared to be having trouble. But, I'd better not spew anywhere above the chest area, or else I'd "lose a nut." O-kay. I think I should be going now.
It was closing in on midnight when we reached Winnemucca and the infamous Line. I'd never been there, but I'd learned from others that the Line is usually hit or miss with no variation: either you find a hidden gem or you can't find anyone that's even remotely appealing. Sadly, the latter situation was upon your intrepid explorers on this particular evening. Indeed, the selection at all the Winnemucca establishments was particularly unfavorable, with only CHEYANNA from the Villa Joy managing to stand out.
We spent our last moments at the Line drinking sodas at the My Place bar while the ladies there entertained us with ribald jokes, and then Louis and I began the long drive home, taking turns behind the wheel while the other slept. At 4:30 AM, Louis woke me to show me the new Playmates Ranch, formerly Billie's Day and Night, outside Mina. I've heard good things about the place; maybe someday I'll visit. We arrived in Los Angeles in time for Louis to make his appointment, bringing the 2002 Mad Man tour to a welcome close, after 1,700 miles, 36 hours, and 16 brothels, but only two sessions between us. The quality was not impressive on this tour, gentle readers, but if things should improve, then we will certainly inform you. In the meantime, drive carefully out there and beware of those ROBs!
Your intrepid explorers,
Louis and Clark
Post Number: 5
Votes: 4 (Vote!)
|Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 1:57 am: || |
Some things to consider
For the first time brothel or ranch visitor, arriving without knowledge of how things work can come at a cost. The following suggestions may help on your first visit and also save you some money.
Bargaining and Negotiations
Almost all the brothels have a house minimum, which you can find out by asking the bartender, the Madame, or one of the ladies. (Some ladies may not want you to know the house minimum, because it gives you a bargaining tool.)
However, knowing the house minimum may not help you, as some ladies won’t agree to do much of anything for that price.
Over the past few years I've noticed that LPIN has slowed to a crawl and many ranches have changed hands, gone under, closed or were forced to close. Several ranches are owned by the same parties which can be a good and bad thing. All these changes have had an effect on things.
Ranches closer to large cities usually will demand higher rates. It's obvious with the Chicken Ranch and Sheri's Ranch being located just outside of Las Vegas that pricing is meant for high rollers, conventions and travelers passing through, while the more remote ranches farther away depend mainly on truckers, locals and those in transit.
Many ladies working in the resort brothels near Reno, Carson City, and Vegas often start negotiations by handing you a printed menu. This menu will list the services that the lady is willing to perform and the cost of those services. Depending on how desirable the lady feels she is and how fancy her place of employment is, the prices can run into the thousands of dollars for common activities with fancy names.
Acting desperate, as if you haven’t had sex in years, or unsure of what you want will increase your chances of getting the menu treatment. She’s hoping you’ll agree to those prices because you look like you don’t know your way around. Or, she’s got an ego problem and needs men to pay her ultra-high prices.
The menu is not for you. Look at it when she hands it to you and try not to laugh or scream in horror. Then, put it aside and politely ask her to start at the bottom of the pricing scale, rather than at the top.
Paying menu prices is like going into a car dealership and paying sticker price. You'll get all the bells and whistles, like rust proofing and undercoating, that are usually things you pay for that aren't worth the price. If you're visiting a LPIN for company and not sex, then you might not mind paying more for non-sexual favors. However, if you're interested in FS or Oral, ask for the house minimum and work your way up.
Be prepared to settle for less time or fewer activities if the lady won’t meet your price. Don’t allow yourself to be talked into paying more if you’re not prepared to pay it. When the little head thinks for the big head, you’re more likely to agree to something you shouldn’t.
Finally, being polite, sober, and clean can do wonders for your negotiating strategy. Guests who bring attitude or hygiene problems into the brothels get charged more. Period.
My hat is off to ranches like the Shady Lady Ranch where prices are actually fair and posted, which is a first for Nevada. Prices range from $60 for a basic (oral or half-ahd-half) 15-minute party up to $2K for an overnight party. Shady Lady Ranch and Angel's Ladies Ranch stand out as BEST BUYS in Nevada. While you may not find some of the younger, stunning women available in the higher priced ranches, you'll get more for you hard-earned dollars. Both brothels are husband and wife owned and operated, which gives their businesses more of a homey feel.
Another helpful tip is to review the line-ups posted on the Shady Lady's and Angel's web sites. Be sure to call ahead and ask who is available before you arrive.
When darker is not better
On my latest trip to Nevada I made a point to take as many tours as possible and one thing was really apparent: Some ranches hold their line ups in very dark enviroments while others are well-lit. This makes your selection even more difficult and can be some cause for alarm as things can look very different in the dark. Mabel's, for instance, had the darkest line up of all the ranches. The hallways to the rooms were even darker and in the room I visited it was so dark you could barely tell whom you were looking at. Had a session taken place here, it would all be based on feel rather then a whole package which adds the visual end.
Post Number: 19
Votes: 1 (Vote!)
|Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2004 - 3:03 am: || |
Brothel Art Museum
Real or just a way to get your attention?
Over the past 20 years of visiting the ranches in Nevada and the dozens of visits I've made to the ranch in Crystal Springs (oddly just a stones throw from a brothel) i've never seen the Museum actually open. It appears to be just another way the ranch owner advertises his ranch. It's been said that the brothels or ranches in Nevada are forbidden by state laws to advertise. Although it appears the state does not hold the ranches to the written rule. Ranches such as Madam Butterfly's and Cherry Patch have used several mediums to get customers to visit.
Closest Ranch to Las Vegas
Some of these schemes are far from the truth.
Madam Butterfly's and Cherry Patch often state "the closest ranch to Las Vegas". In fact it's 80 Miles from center Las Vegas to Crystal Springs (Madam Butterfly's). While it's only 65 miles to Sheri's or the Chicken Ranch in Parhump. Anyone can check this by looking at a map. I guess the point is to get guys to think it's closer then it actually is.
How many ranches are there?
Well if you read some of the pamplets they pass out you'd think twice as many as their really are.
Mables Whore House, Madam Butterfly's, Cherry Patch I, Cherry Patch II. That's four ranches but in reality there are actually only two. CHerry Patch II is and has always been located on the 95.
Mables Whore House and Madam Butterfly's are in the same building and have never been two separate places. Cherry Patch I is located next to the Brothel Museum and has been closed over the past 20 years that I've been driving by these places. So when you read all these names know that there are actually only 2.
Massage Parlor, Adult toys and Strip Clubs
Oddly the owner of Mables, Madam Butterfly's and Cherry Patch are the same. Note they seem to always list all the ranches in the same ads. For some reason they feel they need to attract the attention of those who are going the the Chicken Ranch and Sheri's Ranch by putting up bill boards to the Museum at or on the way to Sheri's and the Chicken Ranch. They also put an Adult store, massage parlor and now a Strip club at the corner where you turn off the main road to head down "Homestead Road" to the Chicken Ranch and Sheri's.
I guess the point was to drive traffic to them. In fact I've gone into the massage parlor or adult store (what ever was open) only to note they're not interested in selling a massage or adult toys but rather to convince you to take the 35 mile drive north to the Crystal Springs ranch area.
Venus Bath and Massage Salon
Post Number: 7
Votes: 2 (Vote!)
|Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 3:43 pm: || |
Suggestions for Brothel, Ranch or Bordello visitors
This appears to be written by a woman, I thought it would be interesting reading to write a bit about the man's point of view, who by the way is the one who is paying.
BEHAVE LIKE A GENTLEMAN WHEN YOU ENTER ANY OF THE LEGAL BROTHELS IN NEVADA This by far, is the number one rule. Don't be a jerk. And check your attitude at the door. Treat the Ladies and the House the way you want to be treated. If you act like a jerk, you'll be treated like a jerk and more than likely, be shown the door. On a recent visit, a group of jerks from a bachelor party walked in. They were introduced to the Ladies with a lineup, then asked if they wanted a tour. The leader of the idiot group shouted out loud, "I don't like her."
I don't think he's going to get very far in the House with that kind of attitude. Be polite and courteous towards the Ladies. If you are sitting at the bar having a drink and a Lady introduces herself to you, be polite even if she doesn't strike your fancy. She could possibly introduce you to another Lady that could be your fantasy Lady. Also, offer to light her cigarette, even if you don't smoke.
Interesting but this happens to work both ways, as all too often I'ven entered a Nevada Brothel and had the women make remarks when there were no women to my liking. Some women working these establishments have the opinion that men don't care as long as it's close to looking like a female. Well when prices can go as high as $500 plus for service men have the right to be very picky as there is money at stake. This same advice applies to the women who work at Nevada Brothels, Bordellos and Ranches. Be nice, polite and shut your trap, a guy may still pick you, pressuring him or lecturing him most always ends in scaring the guy away. No attitude is a must, be nice.
CONTROL YOUR ALCOHOL Alcohol does have an affect on your libido. If your alcohol does get out of hand, you will be asked to leave. Besides, if you leave drunk and behind the wheel, you're taking a chance getting pulled over by the police.
Common knowledge that you don't mix drugs or alcohol and this goes for the women who work at the club also
TIP THE BARTENDERS Like any other service, gratuities do go a long way in good service.
Although this is the proper thing to do (T: to I: insure P: prompt S: Service) I't highly doubtful that your tip to the bar tender will help you at the club. In fact I once asked a bar tender (I tipped) at the older Mustang Ranch about the ladies and their performance and got a quick reply "Im not allowed to talk about that". So besides being polite and hoping for better service spending money at a Brothel for anything other then sex (alcholol, expensive dixie cup soda pop, coffee) is worthless. On occassion the smaller brothels bartenders will offer more info and then a tip is in order. Some brothels also offer free coffee and giving a tip for something free is a good idea since they are giving you a service that does not include a profit.
WHEN ASKED, GIVE THE LADIES A DOLLAR FOR THE JUKEBOX Most of the legal brothels have a juke box. If a Lady approaches you for a dollar for the jukebox, be polite and give her a dollar or two for parlor music. She may not select the music you like, but for Pete's sake, it's a dollar!
Yes as stated, "for Pete's sake it's only a dollar" and since these girls are often making $50 an hour they should either pay it themselves or tell the boss to install a free music source and not hassle the customers over a feeble amount when in the room they often hand you a menu with options for $1000's of dollars. Now who is being cheap here, the girl that expects high dollar payment or the guy who most often goes home broke?
I've never seen this stupid custom done anywhere else in the world. It's just not done. You want attitude like stated above, watch one of these women get one when you tell her "NO" when she begs for a feeble dollar. It's a bad idea to bother the customers with this, is, has been and will always be. You'll note the classy women don't ask, so it's a sign.
DRESS NEATLY This doesn't mean dressing for success with an Armani suit or a tuxedo. Casual is okay but looking nice creates a good first impression with the Ladies and good hygiene on your part goes a long way for a good time. I've heard stories from Ladies themselves about customers who show up with a body odor stench that could peel the paint off the walls. However, some of the rural Houses do offer showers prior to your party and it doesn't hurt to take one. If you feel you need to take a shower, many of the Ladies will kindly oblige. Take a shower if you need one while she books the party with the cashier and it doesn't come off your time with her.
I can agree with this, dressing the part is interesting. Have you ever entered a club like "Cherry Patch" where an old lady about 60 is wearing lingerie? Some women just don't fit in these places, so what is the purpose of showing something you don't have to show?
NO CELLULAR PHONES, CAMERAS, KNIVES-MULTI TOOLS Who wants to be interrupted when you are having your fantasy fulfilled and your stupid cell phone rings? Leave it in the car. No cameras, video equipment, knives and/or multi-tools is a House rule.}
I find this odd as from my experiences most women in this business have cell phones, after all they need to on call at times. Thus I've been in a session with a woman and "Her" cell phone rang and she answered it. The problem is that the person paying should have the right to do what they wish. Thus if they are expecting a call, it's not the person who is getting paid that should have a say.
So I found it odd for this to be discussed and then on top of that the women who do this, answer the call and it's on YOUR time.
CONDOM DURING SEXUAL ACTIVITY IN THE HOUSE IS LAW Don't try to bargain your way out of it. And don't cop an attitude if the Lady says no.
Yes I agree, just go to other places of paid sex where it's not a problem and I've yet to hear of any problems. One can be overcareful too.
IF YOU GET WALKED, DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY If you and the Lady of your choice don't come to some kind of financial agreement, don't take it personally. Just say, "Thank You" and move on. On many occasions, the Lady may refer you to someone who meets your financial needs. If not, return to the bar and keep looking. You'll find something!
RELAX AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. If this is your first time in a legal brothel, you may be nervous. Relax and soak it all in. Act as if you belong there.
This goes for the ladie who offers a ridiculous price for service and you walk on her, for some reason when a guy thinks that the price is too high (and the guy's not desperate) that when he walks her, she should get an attitude or become angry. Hey everyone's time is valuable, the man and the women are equal. I hear this "take a tour, there is no obligation" all the time and for some reason some women don't take it that way.
Post Number: 8
Votes: 2 (Vote!)
|Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 4:50 pm: || |
Some common questions and answers that appear to be written by a woman at a Brothel
How much does it cost to visit a Legal Brothel In Nevada?
Absolutely nothing. Most of the facilities are secured and in most places, you have to be "buzzed" in to enter. Once you step into the "parlor", you'll be greeted by a lineup of Ladies available for your choosing. In most cases, you can respectfully and politely decline in choosing a Lady. However, if one of the Ladies catches your eye and your heart, by all means, pick her before another client chooses her.
It costs an arm and a leg if you're not careful, by all means don't pay with a credit card as that means you'll get jacked for even more money. Houses have minimums which are the least a woman should accept for service. This does not mean they won't go lower then that either as it's a very fluid business. However it appears not to be built on volume but rather as much as you can get at some brothels. Where the first thing a newcommer is given is a Menu with sky high prices for fancy named parties which are all basically the same. Most brothels are secure in they have a security gate or door, you ring a door bell or buzzer and via closed circut camera you are let in. This is also sometimes done to keep you in, to ensure you pay too. By all means use your gut reaction to get a feel for a lady as some have a Dr. Jekyll and Dr. Hide side which means they are super nice and sweet UNTIL you hand over the money and then the REAL woman comes out and you might not like what you get. These one shot con artist are usually found near the larger cities such as Vegas and Reno and depend on the bigger volume of customers. Not repeat customers, as customers often consist of truckers, drive bys and sometimes
convention visitors as well as high rollers. Many can be considered one time customers who don't return often.
How much do the Ladies charge for their "services"?
That all depends on the Lady you choose. Ladies in the Legal Brothels in Nevada work as independent contractors and charge the going rate for their time and what you desire. Rates do vary from Lady to Lady, "house" to "house" as well as geographically.
Independent is only part of the truth as the fact is the price you pay is split usually 50/50, except at places like the "Shady Lady" where there is a 60/40 split in the ladies favor. Some women charge by the act, some charge by the time, while others use a combination of the two to take advantage of you. For example, when you visit a Brothel and don't agree to an "Act" and "Time" what ever is in the ladies favor is most likely to apply AFTER funds change hands. Lets say you walk into the "Kit Kat Brothel" in Mound House (Carson City Area) and take a tour to the room. You ask the girl for "oral" for $100. Unless you agree to time, most likely that will mean you have 15 Minutes, whether you finish or not. Time did apply as you did not mention it, nor does she have to but the house will automatically set the deal this way. Does not sound like a way to start a good business transaction for a long term business life. Just think car dealership as this is the closest thing I can think of that resembles the way most Brothels work. Close the deal for the maximum dollar. Now you can get a bad deal dealing in time also as most women will stop when the act is complete. For example if you agree on a 1 hour session and you pop your load in 10 minutes, she most likely won't let you pop again. So what does it cost, while the rest of the world charges about $50 for 30 minutes or so, well Nevada does not like to talk about prices. Well some reputable Brothels like the Shady Ladie Brothel which post time and act info up front. Just visit their web site to see for yourself. Don't listen to a Brothel girl who'll tell you all sorts of untruths as to why you need to do all the negotiations in the room. Then beware of the gal who starts the clock before she gets to the room, while you shower, undress, yes anything to eat up your time. Now this does not mean there are not GOOD Brothels, Ranches or Bordellos in Nevada, it means that you need to know the ropes as to not become one of the many men who get taken on a daily basis. So what does it cost, well most houses have a house minimim, ask the madame, bar tender or manager (not the ladies as most will make up their own). This is the minimum they should accept. Remember half goes to the girl. Look to pay $100-$200 for 30 minutes and $200-$300 for an hour. Expect some women to ask for $500 an hour or even 30 minutes. Remember talk about what you'll do as some women sell hand jobs for big bucks too. Like at the car dealer, read the fine print and know your costs, their costs too. Start by asking anyone except the ladie the house minimum. Agree to how much time, the acts, positions, does she do oral? Kissing? well that is rare in Nevada, so don't count on it.
What happens if there isn't a Lady that catches my attention or what happens if I choose one and I don't have the money to pay her?
If none of the Ladies catch your attention have a seat at the bar, have a drink, relax a bit and soak in the atmosphere. Maybe later, one will show up that will catch your attention. Some of the "houses" do accept major credit cards (your credit statement will not indicate the name of the legal brothel) and in some cases, you can pay for your time with both cash and credit card. If what you have is all you brought with you, some kind of deal for the amount of money you have, the act and her time will be negotiated. If you still come up short, you will be declined, or "walked" and escorted back into the parlor. Please, don't take offense to this and getting upset with the Lady or the "house" will put you into some trouble and you will be asked to leave.
Sounds so odd to keep refering to men to not be upset for asking for a fair amount for sex. How much is fair, do these women hate what they do, well you might be asking yourself that when a ladie refuses your $100 offer for 30 minutes of oral plus 3 positions. She looks at it as $50 and then taxes removed, plus her room and board which is another business the brothel makes money off the women. It's a dog eat dog world, legal prostitution in the US. Brothel owners sometimes appear to be cold hearted pimps rather then business men or women. There are horror stories on the internet of guys using their credit cards to pay $5000 for a couple hours of average to poor sex. Take care, walk HER when in doubt and hit the door as their are almost 30 other brothels to choose from.
Is a Legal Brothel safe?
Legal Brothels in Nevada operate under county laws, every precaution in security is taken for the safety of the clients and the Ladies. Don't expect a pimp to bust into a room and rob you. The Lady's room also features a panic button that alerts security if a client gets out of hand or if an emergency situation arises.
They need a button for the client to push when the girl does not do what she promises or attempts to jack the man for ridiculous prices. You can be sure a pimp won't bust in to rob you, the girl will do her best to do that herself as the "pimp", brothel owner gets his 50% regardless.
In fact there is so much trust between the brothel owner and the girl and many rooms are wired for sound (yes a microphone) to record you and the girl to ensure the price you and she agree on includes the house. Now since this is technically illegal it's never used for you, in other words if you don't get what she told you, it won't be replayed to prove she ripped you off. In fact learning to offer money via a hand written note, or finger signs has help some guys get a better deal. See the women know the brothel is listening.
So why don't they put up signs, stating the rooms are being listened in on? Sounds kinda creepy. so you may understand why it's kept secret. Some brothels a knock comes on the door when your time is up, some have an intercom, so that tells you the rooms are most likely wired both ways. Time is most often set on a kitchen timer, you know that twist the know type, now so accurate and often twisted way before the action starts. SO set your stop watch and complain, that last thing the brothel wants is a scene and the police visiting. You have rights too...
Are Legal Brothels clinically safe?
Every Lady working in the house is subject to a weekly medical inspection by a licensed medical practioner and is licensed by the county in which she conducts her business. Each Lady is fingerprinted and a thorough background check is conducted by the County Sheriff's office. Every client that participates with a Lady must wear a condom as required by law. We remind you that this is for the safety of you and the Lady. Don't cop an attitude about it and don't try to buy your way into it. You'll be politely declined. According to the Center For Disease Control in Atlanta, since prostitution was legalized in Nevada, there has never been a reported case of either a client or Lady contracting HIV in any of the Legal Brothels.
There have been cases but the brothel gets involved and things are covered up, you can find evidence about this on the web, in fact on another brothels web site they talk about this happening within a year or so. They are not fail safe, it's a human business and women do work without condoms. Although it is not common, things happen and unless you check a woman after each trick there is a chance that the next person gets what the one before him had. While this is not the norm, it's better known then thought that Nevada Brothels are without fault and the perfect paid sex system. The rest of the world has been at this much longer and there are better systems to be found. If the sheriff's office runs a check it's by no means run through FBI or CIA, it's most likely local and basic at most
If I find a Lady I like, can I make an appointment? Can I also spend my time with her outside the Legal Brothel?
You certainly can make an appointment with the Lady of your desire. Spending time with the Lady outside of the Legal Brothel is called an outdate. Some houses that do permit outdates have strict guidelines and once again, every precaution is taken for the Lady's safety and yours. As for seeing the Lady outside the Legal Brothel when she is off-shift is taboo. The idea is to keep the ladie from taking 100% rather then only getting her 50%. Also note that outdates outside the county permitting prostitution is illegal. There are other laws that must be followed as Brothels and Bordellos can't be located just anywhere and outdates usually fall under the same laws. It's not that uncommon for women who build a working relationship with a client to dump the house and pass on the savings. Much of the talk and legal garbage is scare tactics to keep the brothel from losing it's share.
When is the best time to visit a Legal Brothel in Nevada?
Legal Brothels in Nevada are open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days of the year. From past experience, weekends and evenings tend to be busy, mornings a bit slow and in some cases, certain Holidays can be very slow while other Holidays have the houses gearing up for more business.
As in any business when you have lots of customers you can be choosy, thus visit when there are less customers and the women are more desperate, which means avoiding weekends, evenings, conventions and other peak times. Some houses have only one shift of working ladies so coming anytime before the late afternoon and most are asleep. Mid day, weekdays, early morning most often better rates can be had. So think about this, if the brothel is busy and guys are waiting for women, most likey the women won't deal as much.
Is Legal Prostitution legal in all of Nevada?
Legal Prostitution is only legal in certain counties across the state of Nevada. It is illegal in such cities as Reno (Washoe County) and Las Vegas (Clark County). Don't take chances with fate. Legal Brothels however, are situated in neighboring counties and usually a short drive away. If you must take a taxi, most of the drivers know how to get there and they will bring you back refreshed from your Legal Brothel adventure.
1st, never take a taxi, if he decides to wait for you, then he'll be getting a commission, most likely 20% of what ever you spend. This means she'll pass that cost on to your with 20% higher rates. Some brothels are within the city such as Battlemountain, Elko, Wells and Ely while others are as far as 65 miles outside of Las Vegas. Check the Brothel Directory on this site for maps and distances.
What happens if someone recognizes me such as my boss or co-worker at a Legal Brothel?
I'd say that you have something in common! All kidding aside, your presence at a Legal Brothel in Nevada is discrete and confidential among management and the Ladies. Unless of course, you boast amongst your friends that you visited a Legal Brothel. Then of course, you will have to provide some kind of proof that you have been there. Some of the Legal Brothels do have free souvenirs such as matchbooks and pleasure menus along with other souvenirs you can purchase.
Not much to argue here
Is it okay to bring gifts to a Lady?
It certainly is. Flowers, candy, their favorite soft drink, stuffed animals (and they love stuffed animals!), perfume are among some of the favorite items brought by gentleman clients. You are only limited by your imagination. However, there can be a dark side to gifts. There have been reports that a gift given to a Lady by her client in some Legal Brothels is considered revenue and a percentage of that gift is taken out of her cut by the house. In some other cases, there has been jealousy among the Ladies when others have been showered with gifts. Use discretion on this one
There are positives and negatives to doing this, the golden rule is when the money stops changing hands the relationship changes. Girlfirends are not hookers and even the girlfriend who is a hooker by trade will feel wrong charging her boyfriend. Should this not be the case their are all sorts of excuses to rationalize her to still charge you but the proof is in the pudding as they say
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What it takes to be a Legal Courtesan
You must see a Licensed Nevada M.D. or Clinic and be cleared of all STD's which can be faxed to the Mineral County Sheriff's Department by the clinic or doctor.
You must be licensed through the County Sheriff's Department
This is a one day process; if you arrive between Monday through Thursday. You could start working the following day!
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Should Nevada Brothels Pay Taxes?
Last month, one proposal to impose the tax failed to come to a vote in an Assembly committee; another was gutted in a Senate committee. A spokesman for Republican Gov. Kenny Guinn said the idea was "not something the governor is going to waste any time on."
"The governor just thinks it's a local government issue and not part of his agenda," spokesman Greg Bortolin said. "He thinks, as well, that he would be affirming the industry if he came out in support of the bill."
Nevada is the only state where prostitution is legal. But the state keeps the industry at arm's length. It does not levy a business tax on houses of ill repute, it bars them from advertising, and it doesn't allow them in the state's biggest urban area, Las Vegas.
In fact, the decision of whether to allow prostitution is made on a county-by-county basis, with state law largely silent on the matter.
"We're the only industry in the state that in one move of the Legislature or the governor can be swept away entirely," said Nevada Brothel Association lobbyist George Flint. "If more people move to this state with Nebraska or Iowa or California license plates, the old Nevada mentality that always tolerated us is going to be diluted."
So Flint came up with a solution: "Look, if we contribute and do nice things for the state, maybe the state will like us better."
Two years ago during a budget shortage, the brothels came close to getting their wish, but last-minute negotiations inadvertently exempted them from a tax on live entertainment.
This year, they had an unlikely ally in an anti-prostitution lawmaker who sponsored a measure proposing a tax of about $2 per customer. It was expected to bring some $3.2 million to the state over the next two fiscal years.
"I don't believe in legal prostitution, but I'm not a zealot about it, either," said the sponsor, Assemblywoman Sheila Leslie, a Democrat from Reno. "They're a legal business, they should contribute like every other legal business, and I'm willing to make that happen."
Brothels are legal in 10 of Nevada's 17 counties, which charge a quarterly business fee ranging from $100 to $20,000 and a work permit fee of $50 per prostitute.
Some counties get as much as 25 percent of their business fees from brothels. Lyon County, home to the famous Moonlite Bunnyranch, will collect $316,000 in brothel business fees and $25,000 in permit fees next year.
But many brothel owners are willing to pay more. The state's 28 bordellos make $20 million to $50 million annually, said Geoff Arnold, president of the Nevada Brothel Association.
Many think paying a tax will ultimately help them lift the ban on advertising. They want to be able to use billboards or fliers, or at least advertise openly in the phone book. (Brothels are now listed under "massage" in the Yellow Pages.)
Bobbi Davis, owner of the Shady Lady Ranch, a brothel about 120 miles outside Las Vegas, said paying taxes is the way to go.
"There's a price, sometimes, for legitimacy," he said.
Precious, a prostitute at the Shady Lady Ranch, said that even if the owners pass the tax on to the girls, it won't be a problem.
"What's a couple extra dollars off? I can waste that on lip gloss or new eyeliner," she said. "That's chump change for what some of the girls make here."
Prostitutes at Shady Lady Ranch make up to $1,000 daily during peak tourist season, she said. (Brothels and prostitutes are subject to federal income tax on their overall earnings, but Nevada has no state income tax.)
Dennis Hof, owner of the BunnyRanch, is against the idea. He said brothels already pay their fair share and should not have to "pay for legitimacy."
Flint said the tax offer stands, should future legislatures want to take him up on it. In the meantime, he said, "I bow to the wisdom of the Legislature."
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Brothel Etiquette Guide
Behave Like A Gentleman In a Legal Brothel. This by far, is the number one rule. Don't be a jerk. And check your attitude at the door. Treat the Ladies and the House the way you wanted to be treated. If you act like a jerk, you'll be treated like a jerk and more than likely, be shown the door. On a recent visit, a group of jerks from a bachelor party walked in. They were introduced to the Ladies with a lineup, then asked if they wanted a tour. The leader of the idiot group shouted out loud, "I don't like her."
I don't think he's going to get very far in the House with that kind of attitude. Be polite and courteous towards the Ladies. If you are sitting at the bar having a drink and a Lady introduces herself to you, be polite even if she doesn't strike your fancy. She could possibly introduce you to another Lady that could be your fantasy Lady. Also, offer to light her cigarette, even if you don't smoke.
Control Your Alcohol. Yes, you are there for a good time but that doesn't mean getting plastered calls for a good time. It's a fact. Alcohol does have an affect on your libido. If your alcohol does get out of hand, you will be asked to leave. Besides, if you leave drunk and behind the wheel, you are taking a chance getting pulled over by the police.
Tip The Bartenders. Like any other service, gratuities do go a long way in good service.
When Asked, Give The Ladies A Dollar For The Jukebox. Most of the legal brothels we visited had a juke box. If a Lady approaches you for a dollar for the jukebox, be polite and give her a dollar or two for parlor music. She may not select the music you like, but for Pete's sake, it's a dollar!
Dress Neatly. This doesn't mean dressing for success with an Armani suit or a tuxedo. Casual is okay but looking nice creates a good first impression with the Ladies. And good hygiene on your part goes a long way for a good time. I've heard the stories from the Ladies themselves about customers who show up with a body odor stench that could peel the paint off the walls. However, some of the rural Houses do offer showers prior to your party and it doesn't hurt to take one. If you feel you need to take a shower, many of the Ladies will kindly oblige. Take a shower if you need one while she books the party with the cashier and it doesn't come off your time with her.
No Cellular Phones, Cameras, Knifes, Guns Or Weapons Of Any Kind . Who wants to be interrupted when you are having your fantasy fulfilled and your stupid cell phone rings? Leave it in the car. No cameras, video equipment, knives and/or multi-tools is a House rule.
Condom During Sexual Activity In All Legal Houses In Nevada Is The Law. Don't try to bargain your way out of it. And don't cop an attitude if the Lady says no.
If You Get Walked, Don't Take It Personally. If you and the Lady of your choice don't come to some kind of financial agreement, don't take it personally. Just say, "Thank You" and move on. On many occasions, the Lady may refer you to someone who meets your financial needs. If not, return to the bar and keep looking. You'll find something!
Relax And Have A Good Time. If this is your first time in a legal brothel, you may be nervous. Relax and soak it all in. Act as if you belong there.
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NOTE... IAM DOING THE WEBSITE FOR THE NEW GIRLS AT THE DOVE TAIL IN CARLIN. wow!!!!! IT IS UNDER NEW MANG. AND IT IS LOOKING PRETTY GOOD FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN. EVEN THE MADAM IS YOUNGER AND HOT!!!!